Wondering about a boat...
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As the title says, am wondering about a boat.
Would like something that is trailer-able if necessary.
Ideally sleep 4 so can go away with friends etc, however could make do with only 2.
Prefer outboard engine as my preconception is that it's easier/cheaper than an inboard/outboard.
Suggestions on a postcard please chaps and chapesses
Would like something that is trailer-able if necessary.
Ideally sleep 4 so can go away with friends etc, however could make do with only 2.
Prefer outboard engine as my preconception is that it's easier/cheaper than an inboard/outboard.
Suggestions on a postcard please chaps and chapesses
You'll probably be looking for an older 21 foot cuddy cabin with that criteria. Can sleep 2 in the cabin and 2 under cover at the back (it would need to be a fairly warm night though). Anything bigger than 21 foot can become a pain for storage/transport.
You're seriously narrowing your options in both boat model and size by going for an outboard and I'd probably recommend considering an inboard as well. Going for something like a mercruiser 3.0 or even 4.3 shouldn't be an issue and I find them more reliable than the outboards.
Something like a 3.0 bayliner 2052 or maxum/regal 21 would be my choice
You're seriously narrowing your options in both boat model and size by going for an outboard and I'd probably recommend considering an inboard as well. Going for something like a mercruiser 3.0 or even 4.3 shouldn't be an issue and I find them more reliable than the outboards.
Something like a 3.0 bayliner 2052 or maxum/regal 21 would be my choice
Hi. I quite like the look of the MacGregor 26. I'm sure someone will be along to say they are rubbish. I hope not as it seems to tick a lot of boxes.
Quick eBay search http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/macgregor-26-yacht-/2518...
Quick eBay search http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/macgregor-26-yacht-/2518...
ndtman said:
Hi. I quite like the look of the MacGregor 26. I'm sure someone will be along to say they are rubbish. I hope not as it seems to tick a lot of boxes.
Quick eBay search http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/macgregor-26-yacht-/2518...
The macgregors are quite cheaply made and the quality does reflect this. It's a good concept as a first boat and if you're not sure what to buy next - power or sail.Quick eBay search http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/macgregor-26-yacht-/2518...
It's quite a big boat to be towing about and with it being a motor sailer is a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none.
The fact that you don't see motorboats fitting sails on and sailboats fitting large outboards on the back of them says it all...there is a reason for this
Can I just check as well reading back the OP if you meant by trailerable if necessary did you mean you'd be keeping it in the water? If that's the case it opens up a lot more possibilities as pretty much any boat can be trailered somehow (not necessarily with your average car/van though)
What budget were you thinking of?
What budget were you thinking of?
R8Steve said:
The macgregors are quite cheaply made and the quality does reflect this. It's a good concept as a first boat and if you're not sure what to buy next - power or sail.
It's quite a big boat to be towing about and with it being a motor sailer is a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none.
The fact that you don't see motorboats fitting sails on and sailboats fitting large outboards on the back of them says it all...there is a reason for this
Ta for the insight.It's quite a big boat to be towing about and with it being a motor sailer is a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none.
The fact that you don't see motorboats fitting sails on and sailboats fitting large outboards on the back of them says it all...there is a reason for this
R8Steve said:
Can I just check as well reading back the OP if you meant by trailerable if necessary did you mean you'd be keeping it in the water? If that's the case it opens up a lot more possibilities as pretty much any boat can be trailered somehow (not necessarily with your average car/van though)
What budget were you thinking of?
I'd hope to be able to tow it with the LandCruiser What budget were you thinking of?
Would keep it either in the water or dry stack I expect.
The Moose said:
I'd hope to be able to tow it with the LandCruiser
Would keep it either in the water or dry stack I expect.
You should have no problem towing up to about 26 foot with a landcruiser which again broadens your options. At 24 foot plus you start to get into decent 4/6 berth cabins with toilet/shower/dining areas. You would definitely be looking at inboards for that size of boat though. Would keep it either in the water or dry stack I expect.
What kind of boat you get from there is all down to how much you want to spend really
If it's UK towing, and you're not an old git, you'll need to take your trailer test if you haven't already.
I towed my old 25' fin keel sailing yacht back from France a few years ago with the Landcruiser. Make the car look tiny.
Sleeping 4 is going to be an inboard most likely, but that shouldn't put you off too much.
Motor boats generally have much less 'sleeping' space than an equivalent sized sailing yacht, and the sleeping bit is always a bit of an afterthought. Most towable stink boats won't have luxury cabins so it'll be a bit like slumming it (to a certain extent).
Awesome way to spend some free time though, you won't regret it.
I towed my old 25' fin keel sailing yacht back from France a few years ago with the Landcruiser. Make the car look tiny.
Sleeping 4 is going to be an inboard most likely, but that shouldn't put you off too much.
Motor boats generally have much less 'sleeping' space than an equivalent sized sailing yacht, and the sleeping bit is always a bit of an afterthought. Most towable stink boats won't have luxury cabins so it'll be a bit like slumming it (to a certain extent).
Awesome way to spend some free time though, you won't regret it.
The Moose said:
Already done my B+E for racing
Am open to suggestions all round really. Looking for some suggestions to get started and researching etc.
Excellent, that takes weight juggling out of the equation then.Am open to suggestions all round really. Looking for some suggestions to get started and researching etc.
Budget? Even a cluesy? Otherwise I'm gonna start with Riva and work down to Binliner.
maser_spyder said:
The Moose said:
Already done my B+E for racing
Am open to suggestions all round really. Looking for some suggestions to get started and researching etc.
Excellent, that takes weight juggling out of the equation then.Am open to suggestions all round really. Looking for some suggestions to get started and researching etc.
Budget? Even a cluesy? Otherwise I'm gonna start with Riva and work down to Binliner.
Having owned both a Yacht & a trailer sailer, my comment is that there is an awful lot of "faff" with the trailer sailer in that you obviously have to rig & de rig it every time you want to use it.
Then there are the launching points & tides to consider so it is not plain sailing if you pardon the pun!
At least with a moored boat, you can usually just hop on & go as opposed to fighting the wind & tide to rig & launch her. Recovery is also a right pain if the conditions are not favourable!
Most yacht clubs have swing moorings which are a good compromise between cost & ease. Keep your tender at the clubhouse & just fit the outboard 2 mins before you head out to your boat.
Then there are the launching points & tides to consider so it is not plain sailing if you pardon the pun!
At least with a moored boat, you can usually just hop on & go as opposed to fighting the wind & tide to rig & launch her. Recovery is also a right pain if the conditions are not favourable!
Most yacht clubs have swing moorings which are a good compromise between cost & ease. Keep your tender at the clubhouse & just fit the outboard 2 mins before you head out to your boat.
We look after this Flyer 701. Okay, it's made by Bendytoy but for the space vs price, you get a lot of bang for you buck. And it trailers.
http://www.lovellyachts.com/used-boats/boat-detail...
http://www.lovellyachts.com/used-boats/boat-detail...
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