S61 Sea King

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ninja-lewis

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191 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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Madness60 said:
ecsrobin said:
Indeed a very good question, probably one of them names where someone just came out of it and it stuck.

I have never seen an RAF puma with a hoist however Pumas can be fitted with them. The RAF also operate Griffins in a SAR role in Cyprus with a hoist and from valley as part of the training they operate AW139 alongside the griffin.
RAF Puma Mk1 had a hoist, it was a bit Heath Robinson but worked fine, may have been used to practise winching in and out of minefields in Kosovo from a considerable height. Not sure if the Mk2 can fit one though.
Puma was used in Kenya to rescue tourists trapped by flood waters.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/RAFbenson/newsweather/index....

There are few official sources on Google that indicate a HC2 may carry out winching.

matchmaker

8,497 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
ecsrobin said:
mph1977 said:
Hooli said:
ecsrobin said:
A winch is for pulling a hoist is for lifting wink
So why does a bloke I know who hangs off the rope from the Stornaway SAR chopper call himself a winchman?
good question...

it doesn;t change the fact that Merlin and Chinook are thusly equipped , do crab air's pumas have one as well?

elsewhere in the world there's stuff as 'small' as Dauphins / Explorer / EC135/146 equipped with winches / hoists
Indeed a very good question, probably one of them names where someone just came out of it and it stuck.

I have never seen an RAF puma with a hoist however Pumas can be fitted with them. The RAF also operate Griffins in a SAR role in Cyprus with a hoist and from valley as part of the training they operate AW139 alongside the griffin.
The Bond 'coast guard' Superpuma is winch equipped. The black and yellow one which replaced the red and white Coast Guard S-61Ns in Sumburgh.

I have a photo I took dangling from the winch of the '61 whilst being winched for a Canadian tv crew on to a boat near Lerwick in the late 90s...

The Sikorsky built S-61s and Seakings all had the 5 bladed tailrotor and large stabiliser with brace strut. The Westlands got a mixture of 5 or 6 bladed tailrotor and a smaller stabiliser.

The major variants of Sikorsky chopper were the stretched Ls without sponsons but a 45deg tail pylon in lieu of the usual 30deg pylon and it lost the boat hull belly shape too. The N was stretched too but boat shaped and had bigger sponsons than the S-61A/Seaking and also had the 45deg pylon.
The S61R was the HH3-C/E/F "Jolly Green Giant" or Pelican in US Coat Guard and Italian use (the latter also license built in Italy)
Are you sure? I'm sure the Coastguard S61s at Sumburgh & Stornoway were replaced by S92s operated by CHR. The operators at Sumburgh were in order British Airways helicopters/Bristow/CHR/Bristow.

ninja-lewis

4,248 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th April 2015
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matchmaker said:
jamieduff1981 said:
The Bond 'coast guard' Superpuma is winch equipped. The black and yellow one which replaced the red and white Coast Guard S-61Ns in Sumburgh.
Are you sure? I'm sure the Coastguard S61s at Sumburgh & Stornoway were replaced by S92s operated by CHR. The operators at Sumburgh were in order British Airways helicopters/Bristow/CHR/Bristow.
Both are currently at Sumburgh

S92 G-MCGB IMG_6845 by Ronnierob, on Flickr

The Coastguard S-92 is now operated by Bristow on the GAP SAR contract, which lasts until 1 April 2017 when Sumburgh transitions to the main Bristow SAR contract that runs until 2026.

G-REDP. Eurocopter AS332L2 | Bond BP 'Jigsaw' North Sea SAR at Sumburgh Airport by shamu28, on Flickr

The JIGSAW SAR helicopter is operated by Bond on behalf of BP. Another helicopter was based aboard the decommissioned BP Miller platform in the Central North Sea. JIGSAW also involves Regional Support Vessels carrying Autonomous Rescue and Recovery Craft and Fast Rescue Craft. It's primarily intended to support the offshore O&G industry (medical evacuations, platform downmanning, helicopter ditchings etc) but will also respond to other incidents when needed. However, JIGSAW will shortly be replaced by a new contract for Bond to operate a new SAR service covering the Central North Sea from Aberdeen, supported by a number of O&G companies and not just BP.

jamieduff1981

8,027 posts

141 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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That's the one I meant - thank you smile

I've seen the S92 as well - clearly my brain was not firing on both cylinders when I typed that...