Snoopy bites the dust

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Elroy Blue

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192 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Got this from an 'Aeroplane Icons' tweet. Snoopy has finally been reduced to tin cans.




civicduty

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203 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Is that at Cambridge?

Martin43

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179 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Real pity an aircraft as unique as this couldn't be preserved.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Saw her many times in and around Farnborough.

wildcat45

8,072 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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What was she?

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Snoopy was the sole Hercules W Mk 2 serial no XV208.

Converted by Marshalls from a 48 Sqn a/c in the early 1970s it was operated by the Meterological Research Flight at Farnborough (and later by DERA at Boscombe) conducting airborne experiments.

After retirement the airframe was used by Marshalls as a test bed for the A400 engine.

Given that it was the only W2 in existence I am rather saddened by the fact it wasn't preserved in a museum.

Tom1312

1,018 posts

146 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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We don't preserve much anymore these days.

Crying shame.

wildcat45

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189 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Snoopy was the sole Hercules W Mk 2 serial no XV208.

Converted by Marshalls from a 48 Sqn a/c in the early 1970s it was operated by the Meterological Research Flight at Farnborough (and later by DERA at Boscombe) conducting airborne experiments.

After retirement the airframe was used by Marshalls as a test bed for the A400 engine.

Given that it was the only W2 in existence I am rather saddened by the fact it wasn't preserved in a museum.
I know which ine you mean now. That is a great shame.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Tom1312 said:
We don't preserve much anymore these days.

Crying shame.
Really?

We actually preserve quite a lot.

yellowjack

17,074 posts

166 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Snoopy, as was.


Repurposed as A400 engine test aircraft.


Testing over, Snoopy was quietly led away to a place of execution.


Future certainly doesn't look bright.


The end is nigh.

It is quite sad, as a Farnborough resident and aviation fan, to see it broken up like this. At least one poster on an aviation forum has suggested that, for now at least, the forward fuselage is still intact. It's a shame that a home couldn't be found for Snoopy, perhaps at FAST in Farnborough. Even the nose section, with the radome and barber's pole reinstated would be a significant addition to their collection. I'm well aware that "we can't preserve everything", especially in light of the many externally stored collections that have eventually been scrapped due to corrosion and lack of maintenance, but it was Snoopy's 'one of a kind' status that made it worthy of preservation...

frown

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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FAST would be the best home for the nose - or perhaps the newish Boscombe Down Collection on display at Old Sarum.


FAST has a space problem and it would be difficult to display as big an item as a Herc nose with the current limited space available.

b14

1,061 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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I'm in two minds about this. Whilst she is clearly a unique aircraft, I'm not sure she serves much in the way of historical value to society outside of rather esoteric aviation circles. I consider myself to be an aviation enthusiast but have never heard of Snoopy until now, which in my mind indicates one of two things: (1) Snoopy isn't actually that important; or (2) I'm a rubbish aviation enthusiast.

In my view, best to save the small amount of money available for preserving A/C of real historical significance - next on the list, Bravo November.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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I'd go for Option 2) smile

Or maybe you're just too young to remember her in her heyday.

I first heard of Snoopy back in 1973 when there was a picture of her featured in (of all places) the Dublin Evening Herald newspaper.

She was a very prominent member of the Hercules 25 Anniversary line up at Greenham Common in 1979.

b14

1,061 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Eric Mc said:
I'd go for Option 2) smile

Or maybe you're just too young to remember her in her heyday.

I first heard of Snoopy back in 1973 when there was a picture of her featured in (of all places) the Dublin Evening Herald newspaper.

She was a very prominent member of the Hercules 25 Anniversary line up at Greenham Common in 1979.
30 years young... although my formative years were spent in the pax seat of an Auster AOP5 so I like to think my knowledge extends a bit beyond 1984! Aside from being a one of a kind, what else marks Snoopy out as special?

boxst

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145 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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tr7v8

7,192 posts

228 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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This is sad, as an RAE apprentice I worked on that many times. At one point it did a landing with one of the VHF aerials wrapped around the rudder! The pilots comments were none too polite either! We had to remake it & reconnect it. The wing end was easy, the other end at the top of the fin was bloody hairy, I was not good with heights in those days. A howling gale & having to get a stretcher tool to a certain number which took a fair bit of muscle.
Also used to service the ultra intercomms & some other kit off of her.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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b14 said:
Eric Mc said:
I'd go for Option 2) smile

Or maybe you're just too young to remember her in her heyday.

I first heard of Snoopy back in 1973 when there was a picture of her featured in (of all places) the Dublin Evening Herald newspaper.

She was a very prominent member of the Hercules 25 Anniversary line up at Greenham Common in 1979.
30 years young... although my formative years were spent in the pax seat of an Auster AOP5 so I like to think my knowledge extends a bit beyond 1984! Aside from being a one of a kind, what else marks Snoopy out as special?
"One of a Kind" might be good enough on its own - especially now that we have two museums in the UK dedicated to research aircraft (FAST and Boscombe Down Collection). There is also a substantial research aircraft collection at Cosford. Let's hope the nose - with its barber's pole - is preserved somewhere.

Right up until the 1980s, RAF aircraft were involved in weather related work. There were even Met Squadrons and Flights at various RAF stations. The advent of satellite weather coverage has rendered specialist weather aircraft less necessary.
As far as I know, there is no British military weather aircraft preserved as such - although the Spitfire PRXIXs still airworthy survived long enough for preservation because their final RAF duties were weather related.

It would be nice to have one aircraft - or even part of an aircraft - such as a nose, preserved to honour that part of the RAF's history.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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OMG, look at the size of the Prop on that 400 engine!




How much more powerful is it than the turboprops fitted to Snoopy as std? (i guess the answer is "a LOT" ;-)

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Poor Snoopy frown

CrutyRammers

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198 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Eric Mc said:
"One of a Kind" might be good enough on its own - especially now that we have two museums in the UK dedicated to research aircraft (FAST and Boscombe Down Collection). There is also a substantial research aircraft collection at Cosford. Let's hope the nose - with its barber's pole - is preserved somewhere.
Pedantry, but AFAIK the BD collection isn't dedicated to research aircraft. I think most of the core exhibits were just bits and bobs which they got their hands on as aircraft got scrapped. Though they do have some firsts and research versions of course by virtue of BD's function.
It's very good though, a real change to have a museum where things are powered up and you can get in (almost) everything. Even the missus liked it. smile

Edit - depedantry - I suppose all the aircraft at BD could be called research aircraft really. So I'm just wittering smile

Edited by CrutyRammers on Thursday 16th April 13:32