Lancaster fire
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Just out of interest, what would a Lanc fuelled for a short flight with only flight crew on board weigh compared to one with full fuel, crew, ammo and a full bomb load?
I believe my Grandad came home on one with at least one engine missing, but as he sat in the tail I don't think he can claim that much credit for it landing safely. Some credit for it not being more damaged though.
I believe my Grandad came home on one with at least one engine missing, but as he sat in the tail I don't think he can claim that much credit for it landing safely. Some credit for it not being more damaged though.
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
It really rather depends on the a/c.
One of the most impressive things I've seen was the Dutch Fokker Friendship where the Captain feathered a prop while executing a barrel roll.
'twas always an airshow highlight for me.One of the most impressive things I've seen was the Dutch Fokker Friendship where the Captain feathered a prop while executing a barrel roll.
http://youtu.be/wajOrm8UpmY
Tom_C76 said:
Just out of interest, what would a Lanc fuelled for a short flight with only flight crew on board weigh compared to one with full fuel, crew, ammo and a full bomb load?
I believe my Grandad came home on one with at least one engine missing, but as he sat in the tail I don't think he can claim that much credit for it landing safely. Some credit for it not being more damaged though.
I believe my Grandad came home on one with at least one engine missing, but as he sat in the tail I don't think he can claim that much credit for it landing safely. Some credit for it not being more damaged though.
Wikipedia said:
Empty weight: 36,457 lb (16,571 kg)
Loaded weight: 68,000 lb (30,909 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 72,000 lb (32,727 kg)
Loaded weight: 68,000 lb (30,909 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 72,000 lb (32,727 kg)
ChemicalChaos said:
Tom_C76 said:
Just out of interest, what would a Lanc fuelled for a short flight with only flight crew on board weigh compared to one with full fuel, crew, ammo and a full bomb load?
I believe my Grandad came home on one with at least one engine missing, but as he sat in the tail I don't think he can claim that much credit for it landing safely. Some credit for it not being more damaged though.
I believe my Grandad came home on one with at least one engine missing, but as he sat in the tail I don't think he can claim that much credit for it landing safely. Some credit for it not being more damaged though.
Wikipedia said:
Empty weight: 36,457 lb (16,571 kg)
Loaded weight: 68,000 lb (30,909 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 72,000 lb (32,727 kg)
Loaded weight: 68,000 lb (30,909 kg)
Max. takeoff weight: 72,000 lb (32,727 kg)
aeropilot said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
One of the most impressive things I've seen was the Dutch Fokker Friendship where the Captain feathered a prop while executing a barrel roll.
He was mad Fokker...... Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Thanks Ledaig and Eric for the snide responses, that was really grown up of you.
Nothing snide about my response at all, and frankly I would consider it a highly mature response to someone who has just told me to "fk off" on a public forum.Nobody doubts you history or knowledge, but you attitude towards people on this forum stinks.
Very sad news, and I very much support the view that she should be kept flying if at all possible
When I flew on the Canadian Lancaster, I recall feeling how much of a privilege it was, and wondering how much longer she would keep flying. With a fair number of static aircraft,it would be tragic if we never heard a Lancaster in the air, or saw a landing,or even had a chance for a flight.
There is no comparison in seeing a silent, spent corpse of a plane, however visually perfect, and seeing and hearing it as it was intended to be…in the air.
When I flew on the Canadian Lancaster, I recall feeling how much of a privilege it was, and wondering how much longer she would keep flying. With a fair number of static aircraft,it would be tragic if we never heard a Lancaster in the air, or saw a landing,or even had a chance for a flight.
There is no comparison in seeing a silent, spent corpse of a plane, however visually perfect, and seeing and hearing it as it was intended to be…in the air.
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
WRT the Lancaster photo', he may well have got away with it if the speed was high enough to trade for altitude and time to unfeather at least one engine, however it's a bloody silly thing to do. Aside from the fact that the propellor might fail to unfeather, the process itself causes an increase in drag (and hence exacerbates any handling problem).
If it didn't all end in tears, I would warrant that the Captain got a 'hats on' interview with no coffee.
It seems that during the immediate postwar years it was done fairly regularly as a showing off kind of stunt. There's similar photos of a Lincoln carrying a low level beat up on one engine, and of course the well known photos of an MR2 Shackleton at Farnborough also on one. If it didn't all end in tears, I would warrant that the Captain got a 'hats on' interview with no coffee.
A Shackleton features again in how it can go badly wrong, in that at a Battle of Britain display in Gibraltar one year the wrong feathering button was pushed shutting down the live engine and resulting in an expensive mess...
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Ledaig said:
frankly I would consider it a highly mature response to someone who has just told me to "fk off" on a public forum.
I did not tell you to "fk off", had I done so you would have known about it. It would appear that you have taken my post out of context.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff