Royal International Air Tattoo 2015

Royal International Air Tattoo 2015

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Yertis

18,041 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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When you guys say the tickets to RIAT are expensive, what's that in relation to?

SydneyBridge

8,568 posts

158 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Just got me and my son tickets for Fri for £36 and that seems pretty reasonable for a decent day out

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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It always amazes me how people don't quibble about paying £50 for 90 minutes of football, or £50+ to see a sub-2 hour pop concert, yet when you have a six hour flying display of aircraft it is overpriced, I really don't get that.

It must cost ridiculous amounts when you have to factor in Policing, emergency services, local authority road systems, Insurance, employees to organise the event, aircrew accommodation, toilets, bins, pa systems, commentators, crew vehicles, ATC staff and aircraft and so on, and still have money left for the charity at the end of it.

To counter the spotter argument, RIAT send out invites to every country, many a time this involves liaising with the relevant embassies for participation.

It is then up to the country whether they want to attend, and what aircraft they want to attend with. I think RIAT might try to drop hints to sway them if there is a particular aircraft they would like, but really they are at the total mercy of what the country wants to send.
Everyone would love to see a Greek or Turkish F4, but really if they do not have spare crew or aircraft it isn't going to happen.

Also every country will have specific display pilots and routines, it is up to them whether they want to attend the static or whether they wish to send their display aircraft and pilots.

NATO Aircraft are provided free of charge, I believe the RAF actually charge RIAT to attend.
Civilian aircraft have to be paid for, the Vulcan at around £10k per display is a chunk of that budget gone already. As they are not subsidised in any way, RIAT tend to fill as much with free or low cost military items first.
That is why when you get an offer from Spain of a pair or rarely seen F-5s, you won't turn them down. They are a rare item, for very little cost, that would not be filled on the acres of tarmac by anything else.

As said before declining military budgets are reducing the aircraft types and countries attendance. The USAF used to throw everything at RIAT, now with their tight budgets, it is a shadow of what they used to send. The Dutch used to have the F-16 demo and at least a further 3x F-16s either on static/display spares, but now they are not able to even send one. The RAF turn out is good, Voyager, A400M, and Hercules all on static.

So the reality is, RIAT can send the invites, but it is ultimately up to the countries what they decide to send.

I haven't been since 2012, but this year I have booked to go again.





NormalWisdom

2,139 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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I haven't been in for years, I watch the show from Totterdown Farm (Google it, the view is exponentially better than from inside, you just miss the static display). This year however, I will be going in on the Friday to get some photos of the static and will then go to Totterdown on sat and sun.

aeropilot

34,521 posts

227 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Will the Greeks have enough money for a couple of tanks of fuel....?
Probably stuffing the thing full of cash to take back home..........

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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pablo said:
Friday display looks better than expected:

Mass BoB flypast
RAFAT
Typhoon/Spitfire
Hawk T2 role demo
Typhoon solo
A440M
French aerobatic team
MiL24 Hind
Polish Mig 29
Tri-National Tornado flypast
Belgian F16
Greek(!) F16 pair
USAF Osprey
Dutch Apache
That's one hell of a warm-up act for the Chinny
wink

lewisco

380 posts

119 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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I'm after two adult tickets for Saturday 18th if anyone has any spare.

Edited by lewisco on Sunday 5th July 22:04

340600

551 posts

143 months

Saturday 4th July 2015
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pablo said:
Friday display looks better than expected:

Mass BoB flypast
RAFAT
Typhoon/Spitfire
Hawk T2 role demo
Typhoon solo
A440M
French aerobatic team
Red MiL24 Hind
Polish Mig 29
Tri-National Tornado flypast
Belgian F16
Greek(!) F16 pair
USAF Osprey
Dutch Apache
Make sure you see the Belgian F-16. I saw him at Cosford a few weeks ago and the display was jaw-dropping. One of the best I've seen in years.

Lurking Lawyer

4,534 posts

225 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Looks like there will be a couple of Japanese Kawasaki P1s flying in for RIAT - one static, one to display.

Someone let the MoD procurement team know so they can go and have a look at something other than the P8 to fill the yawning MPA void! I can't help but think that 4 engines would be better than 2 when you're doing long duration over-water flying.....

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Updated Friday display


Steve93

1,104 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th July 2015
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Finally getting a chance to go to this. Very much looking forward to it smile

bluey1905

248 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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I have tickets for Saturday, and am really looking forward it, especially the Mig. Hope the Greeks manage to get here with all that's going on at the moment.

Steve vRS

4,845 posts

241 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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lewisco said:
I'm after two adult tickets for Saturday 18th if anyone has any spare.

Edited by lewisco on Sunday 5th July 22:04
I have one spare if it's any use. The whole family was coming but now it's just me and my son.

Steve

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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bluey1905 said:
Hope the Greeks manage to get here with all that's going on at the moment.
I've got mixed feelings on that. Yes, it would be nice to see them attend, but equally... a country that cannot afford to pay it's debts / workers etc, can spend money on sending the aircraft to airshows.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2015
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onyx39 said:
bluey1905 said:
Hope the Greeks manage to get here with all that's going on at the moment.
I've got mixed feelings on that. Yes, it would be nice to see them attend, but equally... a country that cannot afford to pay it's debts / workers etc, can spend money on sending the aircraft to airshows.
Different budgets, innit? wink

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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RIAT just tweeted that the Reds and the Vulcan are flying together Sat and Sun

smile


jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 10th July 2015
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onyx39 said:
RIAT just tweeted that the Reds and the Vulcan are flying together Sat and Sun

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Think that popped up in a ,ail from the Vulcan web site?

Now then, stills or movie....... One day movie, one day stills.

fatboy69

9,371 posts

187 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Looking forward to RIAT as always.

I'm there for four days.

Working airside in the hospitality chalets. Getting paid to watch the flying displays....

Oh well. Someone has to do it!!!!

Yertis

18,041 posts

266 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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fatboy69 said:
Looking forward to RIAT as always.

I'm there for four days.

Working airside in the hospitality chalets. Getting paid to watch the flying displays....

Oh well. Someone has to do it!!!!
Are you a volunteer or on the team?

JVaughan

6,025 posts

283 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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The Reds 2015 routine at Yeovil and the 2015 Typhoon displays were fantastic.

Even 558 opened the taps a little more than she has done previously.