Indonesian C130 crashes into village

Indonesian C130 crashes into village

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Crush

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Hooli

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201 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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Hell of a mess there. I didn't realise you could get so many people in a C130.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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You probably can't.

Herkybird

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114 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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From memory the streched airframe can hold between 120 and 130 (128 is ringing a bell) pax seated a bit less if it's para's with all their kit. Not very comfortably, but seated.
Then there would be the pilot, Co, Air Eng, Nav and depending on the force for that many pax 2 loadies to look after them and possibly a ground engineer as well.



Eric Mc

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Thursday 2nd July 2015
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One of the reports said the C-130 was 50 years old. It was a C-130B model. I'm not sure if it would have been stretched.

Ginetta G15 Girl

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185 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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I don't believe the Indonesians have any L100s (stretched Hercs), furthermore I'm not sure the L100 can operate fully in the pax role (unlike the RAF's C3 and C4); they operate a mix of C130B and C130E as well as a few C130H they aquired from the RNZAF.

For information purposes, a Hercules C1 (ie unstretched) in the 'Troop Role' could carry a maximum of 92 seated troops (including 2x ALM - Air Loadmasters), however for normal peacetime tasks the RAF would reduce this to 68 troops plus 2x ALM.


A Hercules C3 (ie stretched) in the 'Troop Role' could carry a maximum of 128 troops (including 2x ALM) but normally would only carry 90 troops plus 2x ALM.

With a full load as above and a Flight Deck crew of 4 you would have 2x spare seats 'on the bunk' for supernumary crew.


Given that the a/c in question was a C130B (ie unstretched), it rather looks like in this case it was 'standing room only'.

A sad day.

Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Thursday 2nd July 18:11

Eric Mc

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266 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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It's a bit rash of the Indonesians to squeeze so many people into a relatively small aircraft.

frodo_monkey

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197 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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The record on board a Herc is 452...

http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t...

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Thursday 2nd July 2015
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frodo_monkey said:
The record on board a Herc is 452...

http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t...
I'd love to know quite how they got 32 people on the Flight Deck! yikes

aeropilot

34,670 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
frodo_monkey said:
The record on board a Herc is 452...

http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t...
I'd love to know quite how they got 32 people on the Flight Deck! yikes
Given the size of the average Vietnamese.......combined with a big enough shoe horn!

Staggering even so.....

scubadude

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198 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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frodo_monkey said:
The record on board a Herc is 452...

http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/showthread.php?t...
Blimey! Is that more overloaded than the El Al 747 that took off with 1086 (+2 born en-route) during Operation Solomon?

32 in the cockpit sounds like fun, esp (no offence) given the local hobby of backseat driving!