Dornier Do24 ATT Accident

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dr_gn

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Tuesday 21st July 2015
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I saw this impressive aircraft a few years ago in Hamburg - an old Do24 converted to use turboprops. This looked like a close call:

https://vimeo.com/133906998

Eric Mc

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265 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Nasty - a water loop as opposed to a ground loop. That's what wrecked the Catalina in The Solent back in the 1980s.

ecsrobin

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165 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Nasty - a water loop as opposed to a ground loop. That's what wrecked the Catalina in The Solent back in the 1980s.
The Catalonia crashed in 98 in Southampton or is that a different crash?

Eric Mc

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265 months

Tuesday 21st July 2015
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ecsrobin said:
Eric Mc said:
Nasty - a water loop as opposed to a ground loop. That's what wrecked the Catalina in The Solent back in the 1980s.
The Catalonia crashed in 98 in Southampton or is that a different crash?
Must have been the 1998 incident I was thinking of. I remember seeing it on BBC South News.

Steve_D

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258 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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I can't see what (if anything) he did wrong to cause it.
Any ideas?

Steve

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Crosswind?
Gust?

Blaster72

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197 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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The rudders are deflected full left just before it spins. Might be something to do with it!

dr_gn

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Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Apparently it hit an object in the water - hard enough to puncture the hull.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 22nd July 2015
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Ouch - one of the perils of flying boat operations.

Brother D

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176 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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dr_gn said:
Apparently it hit an object in the water - hard enough to puncture the hull.
Picture of puncture - https://www.austrianwings.info/2015/07/landeunfall...

Simpo Two

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265 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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ecsrobin said:
The Catalonia crashed in 98 in Southampton or is that a different crash?
I expect the Catalonia crashed in Spain... (ba-dum-tish mine's a pint)

Blaster72

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197 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Article says it wasn't even supposed to be a landing, it was supposed to be a touch and go demonstration. Hit a submerged log which ripped a hole and caused a large amount of water to be scooped into the fuselage.

Very luck to get away with it, I guess the rudder hardover was a consequence of the pilot being thrown around during the accident.

Hooli

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200 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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That looks like it could have been a lot worse. Glad it wasn't, I really like those old Dornier flying boats.

Eric Mc

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Friday 24th July 2015
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That Dornier is not that old (although it's based on a 1930s design).

V41LEY

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238 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Hope the airframe is sound. That spin would have put enormous stresses on the structure. Glad it is a happy end though.

Edited by V41LEY on Saturday 25th July 13:03

dr_gn

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Friday 24th July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
That Dornier is not that old (although it's based on a 1930s design).
The fuselage, empennage and some of the wing elements are from an aircraft originally built in 1944. The turboprop engines and the majority of the main wing were added or replaced later during a restoration/upgrade.

Eric Mc

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Friday 24th July 2015
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So a bit of both.

lufbramatt

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134 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
That Dornier is not that old (although it's based on a 1930s design).
Having visited quite a few of the warbird restorers in the UK, I think you can say that about most of the vintage aircraft that fly today wink

Eric Mc

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265 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Very true - although I hope nobody has the brainwave of putting a turboprop in a Spitfire.

Dr Jekyll

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261 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Very true - although I hope nobody has the brainwave of putting a turboprop in a Spitfire.
Worked pretty well on a Mustang though.