A380neo

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hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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Trevatanus said:
Just been reading about (lack of) potential orders for the A380, which I think is a real shame, (with exception of Emirates), airlines don't seem to be able to make it work in large quantities..

I was particularly surprised by this comment:

"The Emirates president Tim Clark has said he is ready to buy as many as 200 more A380s if a more fuel-efficient model is introduced."

http://www.thenational.ae/business/aviation/201511...
looking at emirates fleet, I'm wondering if they use the ryanair style less-is-more approach to variation of the fleet, using economies of scale to justify one aircraft type when they have routes that might -viewed in isolation - be better served by a 747.

Quattromaster

2,910 posts

205 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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itwasntandy said:
An A380 burns around 4000gallons of fuel per hour, so for the 12 hours of flying round trip, that's 48000 gallons @ optimistically £2.00/gallon… so £96000

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Is that correct, if so the A380 doing the 16 hr LAX-MEL flight has to have 64,000 gallons on takeoff.

dvs_dave

8,645 posts

226 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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Quattromaster said:
itwasntandy said:
An A380 burns around 4000gallons of fuel per hour, so for the 12 hours of flying round trip, that's 48000 gallons @ optimistically £2.00/gallon… so £96000

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Is that correct, if so the A380 doing the 16 hr LAX-MEL flight has to have 64,000 gallons on takeoff.
Sounds about right. It's fuel capacity is just over 71,000 imperial gallons.

Kenty

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5,052 posts

176 months

Friday 13th November 2015
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Aviation fuel is around 90p/gallon at the moment.

maffski

1,868 posts

160 months

Friday 13th November 2015
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hairyben said:
Trevatanus said:
Just been reading about (lack of) potential orders for the A380, which I think is a real shame, (with exception of Emirates), airlines don't seem to be able to make it work in large quantities..

I was particularly surprised by this comment:

"The Emirates president Tim Clark has said he is ready to buy as many as 200 more A380s if a more fuel-efficient model is introduced."

http://www.thenational.ae/business/aviation/201511...
looking at emirates fleet, I'm wondering if they use the ryanair style less-is-more approach to variation of the fleet, using economies of scale to justify one aircraft type when they have routes that might -viewed in isolation - be better served by a 747.
Their latest two A380's have no first class and a reduced business class, giving 557 economy seats. I'm a bit surprised there isn't a way to reconfigure business/economy based on ticket sales.

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Friday 13th November 2015
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Interesting that JAL have gone in the other direction on their Osaka LAX route with a Dreamliner configured as 45% Economy and the rest Business & First.

Route dependent, I suppose.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 13th November 2015
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There is no real way to reconfigure quickly, one of the biggest issues with the delays in the first place was the HUGE scope of customisation available and all the different hardware that needed to be configured to support he different class config.

For sure it can be done, but its not quick or cheap!

Did anyone see recently the A380 running the 350-1000 engine as a test bed.

Be interesting if that could potentially be an easy incorporation into the airframe for a NEO .... I do not know, but I assume it is more efficient that the CEO.