Crash at Shoreham Air show
Discussion
HoHoHo said:
Could it be read and seen that whilst he did a flypast at 100ft, he then climbed and whilst then executing a derry roll to the left came back towards the airfield whilst losing height (possibly disorientated?) and at that point when he was below 500ft entered the loop at which point he was too low?
He didn't enter the loop from 100ft from the end of the runway from what I can see?
THose are amsl figures too. Anyone know the height of the ground at various points?He didn't enter the loop from 100ft from the end of the runway from what I can see?
From the video on the day of the incident, it was clear he pulled up into the loop at around about 150 ft above the ground, and the report here would suggest that is about right from an observations perspective.
It also appeared from the initial video that it appeared too low to begin such a manoeuvre, ie to effectively enter a loop (I know there was a 90 degree turn too), but what I mean is a vertical manaouvre without a roll out before a fully vertical down component was achieved.
Just seemed it was either an incorrect manoeuvre or incorrectly executed from a point of view of the height at the entry point.
Regarding the display authorisation, at what point does a flypast element become a standard 3 cat aero manoeuvre?
It also appeared from the initial video that it appeared too low to begin such a manoeuvre, ie to effectively enter a loop (I know there was a 90 degree turn too), but what I mean is a vertical manaouvre without a roll out before a fully vertical down component was achieved.
Just seemed it was either an incorrect manoeuvre or incorrectly executed from a point of view of the height at the entry point.
Regarding the display authorisation, at what point does a flypast element become a standard 3 cat aero manoeuvre?
Given the additional information which has come to light since the incident, and the various footage of the aircraft moments before the crash, it looks like it might be the result of the loop being
initiated below optimum height, followed by a high speed stall generated by the pilots attempts to correct the situation in the bottom part of the loop?
initiated below optimum height, followed by a high speed stall generated by the pilots attempts to correct the situation in the bottom part of the loop?
marksx said:
The AAIB doc describes the aircraft pitching up into a manoeuvre with a vertical component and a roll to the left, which I read as on the way up. In a quarter clover, isn't the roll on the way down, to finish 90 degrees to the starting heading?
Interesting point, the roll did seem to be on the way up from the video.Dr Jekyll said:
marksx said:
The AAIB doc describes the aircraft pitching up into a manoeuvre with a vertical component and a roll to the left, which I read as on the way up. In a quarter clover, isn't the roll on the way down, to finish 90 degrees to the starting heading?
Interesting point, the roll did seem to be on the way up from the video.Dr Jekyll said:
RoverP6B said:
It wasn't a loop. Looks more like a Cuban to me.
I think it was a quarter clover.Pan Pan Pan said:
Dr Jekyll said:
RoverP6B said:
It wasn't a loop. Looks more like a Cuban to me.
I think it was a quarter clover.
people do like to exhibit their superior knowledge of aerobatics on here... KTF said:
onyx39 said:
Pilot now out of hospital and about to be questioned....
Could he actually be charged with something/jailed as a result or is it just an 'accident'?Or he might be totally exonerated.
Perhaps it's best if the AAIB get on with it, eh?
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