Crash at Shoreham Air show

[RYH64E]

Eric Mc said:

I sometimes wonder why people make such comments.

My sympathy is entirely for the people who died or were injured whilst going about their daily business, completely oblivious to the entertainment event being held nearby.

[Eric Mc]

RYH64E said:

Eric Mc said:

I sometimes wonder why people make such comments.

My sympathy is entirely for the people who died or were injured whilst going about their daily business, completely oblivious to the entertainment event being held nearby.

I can see that.

[Simpo Two]

RYH64E said:

My sympathy is entirely for the people who died or were injured whilst going about their daily business, completely oblivious to the entertainment event being held nearby.

Yes, he crashed it in a fireball just for fun

[Chrisgr31]

RYH64E said:

My sympathy is entirely for the people who died or were injured whilst going about their daily business, completely oblivious to the entertainment event being held nearby.

Not all those killed were going about their daily business were they?

[RichB]

...and so this thread also descends into the usual Pistonheads bickering.

[Magog]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-343563...

Still not interviewed by the police, no mention if AAIB have spoken to him. One presumes not.

[SMB]

Magog said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-343563...

Still not interviewed by the police, no mention if AAIB have spoken to him. One presumes not.

The quote on various news feeds was specific, 'by the police'. To be honest I don't see why at this stage he needs to be interviewed by police, the aaib need to do their investigation first, if any criminal aspect is suspected then it would be handed over. Until then let's leave the experts to do their stuff, they will almost certainly have been in contact with the pilot and we will know in due course.

[SMB]

Magog said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-343563...

Still not interviewed by the police, no mention if AAIB have spoken to him. One presumes not.

The quote on various news feeds was specific, 'by the police'. To be honest I don't see why at this stage he needs to be interviewed by police, the aaib need to do their investigation first, if any criminal aspect is suspected then it would be handed over. Until then let's leave the experts to do their stuff, they will almost certainly have been in contact with the pilot and we will know in due course.

[bitchstewie]

Tbh I didn't read anything into "by the Police" - I simply assumed that would happen automatically a bit like I'd assume it would if you had a car accident.

[mybrainhurts]

SMB said:

Magog said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-343563...

Still not interviewed by the police, no mention if AAIB have spoken to him. One presumes not.

The quote on various news feeds was specific, 'by the police'. To be honest I don't see why at this stage he needs to be interviewed by police.

They'll be dealing with the illegal parking on double yellows.

[Smollet]

bhstewie said:

Tbh I didn't read anything into "by the Police" - I simply assumed that would happen automatically a bit like I'd assume it would if you had a car accident.

Except it's not a car accident so why would they get involved? They have expertise in dealing with road accidents. I doubt very much they'd know where to start with an accident involving a plane

Edited by Smollet on Saturday 26th September 19:33

[tt601]

Smollet said:

bhstewie said:

Tbh I didn't read anything into "by the Police" - I simply assumed that would happen automatically a bit like I'd assume it would if you had a car accident.

Except it's not a car accident so why would they get involved? They have expertise in dealing with road accidents. I doubt very much they'd know where to start with an accident involving a plane

Edited by Smollet on Saturday 26th September 19:33

I would have thought the damage to hardware and surrounds would merit some form of official investigation and recording, for the formal record and presume subsequent cost of repairs etc.

[SMB]

tt601 said:

I would have thought the damage to hardware and surrounds would merit some form of official investigation and recording, for the formal record and presume subsequent cost of repairs etc.

What's to be gained at this point? unlike some road accidents, what happened is well known, the issue is why, and the police don't have the skills to answer that, the aaib do.

[SMB]

tt601 said:

I would have thought the damage to hardware and surrounds would merit some form of official investigation and recording, for the formal record and presume subsequent cost of repairs etc.

What's to be gained at this point? unlike some road accidents, what happened is well known, the issue is why, and the police don't have the skills to answer that, the aaib do.

[dr_gn]

Why is it any different from other incidents where there has been significant loss of life? Surely the Police have to conduct their own investigations to determine whether there are any charges to be brought?

Just because it was on TV doesn't mean all potential causes and reasons have been determined - and not just regarding the condition of the aircraft.

Police Interviewing the pilot seems entirely routine as far as I can see.

[Dr Jekyll]

dr_gn said:

Why is it any different from other incidents where there has been significant loss of life? Surely the Police have to conduct their own investigations to determine whether there are any charges to be brought?

Just because it was on TV doesn't mean all potential causes and reasons have been determined - and not just regarding the condition of the aircraft.

Police Interviewing the pilot seems entirely routine as far as I can see.

The AAIB are in charge of the investigation. There might possibly be criminal charges arising as a result but it's far from a foregone conclusion. At this stage they want everyone concerned to cooperate with the investigation in order to identify the cause. Generally people do cooperate because they know that reducing the chance of a repeat is the main objective. Clearly if the police were investigating with the objective of looking for someone to charge, then everyone involved with the aircraft or the display would be well advised to say as little as possible.

[bitchstewie]

Smollet said:

Except it's not a car accident so why would they get involved? They have expertise in dealing with road accidents. I doubt very much they'd know where to start with an accident involving a plane

Honestly, I have no idea from a legal perspective other than I assumed that if a plane crashed outside my house the Police would turn up because it's the kind of thing they do - perhaps that's not the case.

[dr_gn]

Dr Jekyll said:

dr_gn said:

Why is it any different from other incidents where there has been significant loss of life? Surely the Police have to conduct their own investigations to determine whether there are any charges to be brought?

Just because it was on TV doesn't mean all potential causes and reasons have been determined - and not just regarding the condition of the aircraft.

Police Interviewing the pilot seems entirely routine as far as I can see.

The AAIB are in charge of the investigation. There might possibly be criminal charges arising as a result but it's far from a foregone conclusion. At this stage they want everyone concerned to cooperate with the investigation in order to identify the cause. Generally people do cooperate because they know that reducing the chance of a repeat is the main objective. Clearly if the police were investigating with the objective of looking for someone to charge, then everyone involved with the aircraft or the display would be well advised to say as little as possible.

Irrespective of whether the AAIB are leading the investigation, due to the condition of the pilot the Police would presumably want to speak to him as soon as possible: If the Police were investigating the deaths of several pedestrians caused by a car misjudging a bend, wouldn't they want to question the driver immediately, rather than waiting until their own team had concluded their investigatons?

[Dr Jekyll]

dr_gn said:

If the Police were investigating the deaths of several pedestrians caused by a car misjudging a bend, wouldn't they want to question the driver immediately, rather than waiting until their own team had concluded their investigatons?

In that case the driver would be arrested at the scene on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving. Pilots are rarely arrested prior to an investigation, this one certainly wasn't.

[Mastiff]

RYH64E said:

My sympathy is entirely for the people who died or were injured whilst going about their daily business, completely oblivious to the entertainment event being held nearby.

Whilst others on this thread may just be pleased to know that there is one less fatality involved in this horrific accident.