Now that the Vulcan time is over

[Scuffers]

Eric Mc said:

It's just something that hasn't really been an issue in aviation. I've never seen any discussion or debate on the topic in any of the historic aviation magazines - such as "Aeroplane Monthly" or "Flypast".

I contend it matter not a jot.

Eric,

it may not to those you describe, however, when used by the mainstream media to the great unwashed, it has a whole different meaning.

[Eric Mc]

I bet the mainstream don't know the tight definitions applied to historic cars either - so they won't be particularly confused.
Indeed, a "vintage" wine could be less than a year old.

In general meaning "vintage" is usually taken as "old" - which would be applicable to a restored 55 year old aeroplane, in my opinion.

[Kitchski]

Well this thread has exhausted my entertainment pass for the day, that's for sure! What a good laugh, full of smiles. I'm going to try the gardening and cycling ones after I've had a sit down.

[Riley Blue]

I was thinking the same; the 'hero to zero' descent of interesting topics gets steeper and faster these days

[Eric Mc]

It became a "vintage" thread.

We do have a thread specifically for XH558 discussion?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[maffski]

richw_82 said:

With regard to other return to flight projects not in progress such as VC-10, the factors involved in their flying again are the same one that Vulcan faces now. Spares and support, in particular that of the manufacturer

Given 3d scanning / printing / cam shouldn't spares at least start to get a bit easier?

[RizzoTheRat]

maffski said:

Given 3d scanning / printing / cam shouldn't spares at least start to get a bit easier?

Yes and no. It can make producing some complex parts easier, albeit expensive, however 3D printed materials tend to be weaker than cast/milled. As an example (although it's not the case for the Vulcan's Olympus engines) some jet engines have turbine blades made form a single crystal, to give a strength that 3D printing could never hope to attain. On the Olympus using pretty advanced forging techniques something like 50% of blades they manufactured weren't good enough to make it in to the engine, they need to be absolutely perfect as they operate in a gas stream which is higher than the melting temperature of the metal they're made of. And that's only one component of a very complex system.

[Eric Mc]

And would be to no avail whatsoever. Without the formal industry support - just like Concorde - no Vulcans will be taking to the air again, at least not in the UK.

[droopsnoot]

Eric Mc said:

I contend it matters not a jot.

You're probably right - I think the term jars with me because I'm more into older cars and have only a passing interest in aircraft.

Anyway, sorry if my bringing it back up derailed the thread.

[Lefty]

I want to see a Lightning fly. Fat chance

[Eric Mc]

droopsnoot said:

Eric Mc said:

I contend it matters not a jot.

You're probably right - I think the term jars with me because I'm more into older cars and have only a passing interest in aircraft.

Anyway, sorry if my bringing it back up derailed the thread.

I have a music channel on my TV called "Vintage TV". It doesn't play any music pre 1960.

[srob]

Eric Mc said:

I have a music channel on my TV called "Vintage TV". It doesn't play any music pre 1960.

I have one called Gold. It has all sorts of colours on it!

I think it jars me as I've been brought up with vintage (ie pre-31) motorbikes and get excited when I hear about 'vintage' bikes being found. Only to find that the Americans call anything pre-1980 'vintage' which makes me sad!

And I'm not sad at all about making the thread boring to others

[perdu]

I've enjoyed most of it

Not the bits that I already knew of course

You know, when G-VULC lands at the intended time at the end of its seasion THAT IS IT

Its a shame but given the awful events at Shoreham most people wont fail to see the end of a perceived risk even though I would sit under her anywhere feeling completely safe

Me? I'd love it if the RAF had kept her on charge and I've enjoyed seeing her around and about, now she can join the other iconic machines that can see their last days out quietly impressing me in a museum

I even saw a Beaufort the other day, thought I'd never see one of those

558 deserves a nice quiet retirement now

With the other vintage or veteran airframes preserved for our enjoyment

[aeropilot]

Lefty said:

I want to see a Lightning fly. Fat chance

Zero chance in the UK.......

However, it's still possible (further funding permitting) that XS422 may yet one day take to the skies again in the USA.

I have no idea what the current situation is regarding the remaining T.5 and two F.6's in SA?

[Dollyman1850]

aeropilot said:

Zero chance in the UK.......

However, it's still possible (further funding permitting) that XS422 may yet one day take to the skies again in the USA.

I have no idea what the current situation is regarding the remaining T.5 and two F.6's in SA?

I had hear that thunder city was back up and running.
N.

[richw_82]

perdu said:

I've enjoyed most of it

Not the bits that I already knew of course

You know, when G-VULC lands at the intended time at the end of its seasion THAT IS IT

G-VULC has landed, never to fly again.

That particular aircraft is XM655 at Wellesbourne Mountford! G-VLCN is XH558...

[perdu]

richw_82 said:

perdu said:

I've enjoyed most of it

Not the bits that I already knew of course

You know, when G-VULC lands at the intended time at the end of its season THAT IS IT

G-VULC has landed, never to fly again.

That particular aircraft is XM655 at Wellesbourne Mountford! G-VLCN is XH558...

Gee - fancy me missing that

And I thought I knowed it all




And that adds to the sadness of what might be happening to 655 soon