Now that the Vulcan time is over
Discussion
pablo said:
Well it was hardly iconic compared to the Vulcan and are there any on the military register?, who would run/maintain it and for what reason other than some slow passes at airshows? Seems like a lot of effort for....
It was apparently the last fully Briitsh Airliner. It served with the RAF for years, and I assume the one sitting at Dunsfold is on the military register. It's been sitting there since they flew it it when they retired it from RAF service last year.My vote is also for the Shackleton
Especially as we have one that is nearing the end of the "Get me flying" road down at Coventry
We should all get behind their efforts
And try to find the scrotes that stole the props from their stores
Kudos to Richw_82 and his friends for their sterling efforts
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Especially as we have one that is nearing the end of the "Get me flying" road down at Coventry
We should all get behind their efforts
And try to find the scrotes that stole the props from their stores
Kudos to Richw_82 and his friends for their sterling efforts
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The VC10 is a stunning aircraft, but most will think its just an airliner they see in the air all day every day. Lucky if they even stay as statics.
My dad worked on them at St Athan, he said some had spend months in the super hanger having millions spent on them only to fly out and be mothballed virtually straight away so a few at least are in decent flying nick, having said that I had a look around one having a major going over, and the thing was looking tired, dont think I would want to fly on it.
Shack yes with its link back to the lancaster, the public would look twice at one of them
My dad worked on them at St Athan, he said some had spend months in the super hanger having millions spent on them only to fly out and be mothballed virtually straight away so a few at least are in decent flying nick, having said that I had a look around one having a major going over, and the thing was looking tired, dont think I would want to fly on it.
Shack yes with its link back to the lancaster, the public would look twice at one of them
perdu said:
My vote is also for the Shackleton
Especially as we have one that is nearing the end of the "Get me flying" road down at Coventry
We should all get behind their efforts
And try to find the scrotes that stole the props from their stores
Kudos to Richw_82 and his friends for their sterling efforts
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Especially as we have one that is nearing the end of the "Get me flying" road down at Coventry
We should all get behind their efforts
And try to find the scrotes that stole the props from their stores
Kudos to Richw_82 and his friends for their sterling efforts
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
pablo said:
Well it was hardly iconic compared to the Vulcan and are there any on the military register?, who would run/maintain it and for what reason other than some slow passes at airshows? Seems like a lot of effort for....
Really?wiki said:
The performance of the VC10 was such that it achieved the fastest London to New York crossing of the Atlantic by a jet airliner, a record still held to date for a sub-sonic airliner, of 5 hours and 1 minute;[1] only the supersonic Concorde was faster.
Nothing but nothing can replace XH558......no other vintage jet flying today makes grown men weep. The Shackleton is lovely plane and sounds incredible, a VC10 would be a welcome addition to the airshow scene - find a IL-62 and do synchronised flying and I'll be there but none of them can do a roll........long live the Vulcan.
Scuffers said:
Eric Mc said:
Scuffers said:
Just to be pedantic, since when is a post war jet vintage?
Is there a formal definition of a "vintage aircraft"?Thanks for all the kind words chaps, we are still making progress with the Shackleton on her return to flight. To be fair we don't expect a mass transfer of interest from XH558 to us as there's a number of projects up and down the UK that would interest the aviation community.
With regard to other return to flight projects not in progress such as VC-10, the factors involved in their flying again are the same one that Vulcan faces now. Spares and support, in particular that of the manufacturer. This is where we scored a significant win some years ago in buying the design of our aircraft - it means there are no outside entities involved in our project other than the CAA (and lately FAA due to the last flying AEW2 over there and her influences on things).
Personally if I had to look at something other than our own aircarft, I'd like to see more of the heavy pistons reappear from the Shack's era. If anyone could rustle up a viable Hastings, Bristol Freighter, or a Varsity, o fund the DC6; I'd love to see those fly.
Regards,
Rich
With regard to other return to flight projects not in progress such as VC-10, the factors involved in their flying again are the same one that Vulcan faces now. Spares and support, in particular that of the manufacturer. This is where we scored a significant win some years ago in buying the design of our aircraft - it means there are no outside entities involved in our project other than the CAA (and lately FAA due to the last flying AEW2 over there and her influences on things).
Personally if I had to look at something other than our own aircarft, I'd like to see more of the heavy pistons reappear from the Shack's era. If anyone could rustle up a viable Hastings, Bristol Freighter, or a Varsity, o fund the DC6; I'd love to see those fly.
Regards,
Rich
Realistically, I don't see anything else replacing it, and with no Vulcan, and the older jets restricted to fly pasts (at least for the time being), I think air shows are going to struggle to pull people in next year. The only other aircraft that absolutely demands your attention when it's displaying is the Harrier, as was demonstrated again at Farnborough last year, but even that won't have the pulling power of the Tin Triangle.
If anyone needs a reminder of the hole that the Vulcan will leave, have a look at the videos on YouTube of it arriving at Dunsfold yesterday; where it did one of the longest howls I've ever heard, pretty much all along the runway line. What an entrance!
If anyone needs a reminder of the hole that the Vulcan will leave, have a look at the videos on YouTube of it arriving at Dunsfold yesterday; where it did one of the longest howls I've ever heard, pretty much all along the runway line. What an entrance!
Riley Blue said:
At Rhyl yesterday an estimated 80,000 people broke into spontaneous applause when the Vulcans made its final pass. I doubt any other aircraft, apart perhaps Concorde, would be capable of that.
Last week at Shoreham the Vulcan flew past at 1000ft (after the accident).The crowd was at that time were still shocked, confused and quiet by the terrible accident that we had all seen (albeit at that time had no idea what we'd actually seen).
A spontaneous round of applause erupted from the crowd as she flew past, no other noise, just applause.
I only went to the air show to see the Vulcan even though I'm a big air show fan and have been to many over the years and my love of aircraft is unsurpassed by any other hobby.
My sadness for the events last Saturday outweighs the sadness I have for not seeing the Vulcan doing its bit by a factor of many.
I'll not be making any more attempts to see the Vulcan. I love it, I have supported it myself and my company has financially helped the trust over many years as far as we could (we supplied the framed prints you may have purchase over the last few years) but I'm in a 'can't go to an air show' mood at the moment.
I'll miss the old girl, the howel and graceful display I suspect will be missed by many.
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