Typhoon/Tucano 20ft near miss over Lincs.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/118...
20 feet is pretty damned close when you're doing 350mph.
DT story said:
A Typhoon jet came as close as 20ft to another aircraft as it narrowly avoided a mid-air crash in the skies over Lincolnshire.
The pilot of the RAF plane, which was flying at 350mph, was forced to take evasive action with only the length of a double-decker bus to spare, a report has revealed.
At the time of the incident, he was flying in formation as he led two other Typhoon jets. An official report said the pilots of the fighter jets had assumed a Tucano training plane, which was flying at 161mph, had moved out of the way...
It happened in March but an investigation by the Air Proximity Board has just concluded this week. The incident was rated Cat A.The pilot of the RAF plane, which was flying at 350mph, was forced to take evasive action with only the length of a double-decker bus to spare, a report has revealed.
At the time of the incident, he was flying in formation as he led two other Typhoon jets. An official report said the pilots of the fighter jets had assumed a Tucano training plane, which was flying at 161mph, had moved out of the way...
20 feet is pretty damned close when you're doing 350mph.
rohrl said:
It happened in March but an investigation by the Air Proximity Board has just concluded this week. The incident was rated Cat A.
20 feet is pretty damned close when you're doing 350mph.
At the risk of sounding like a tool, I assumed fast military jets had radar rather than having to "assume"?20 feet is pretty damned close when you're doing 350mph.
I will let others read the full report. http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/423/2015021.pd...
ecsrobin said:
I will let others read the full report. http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/423/2015021.pd...
Very interesting reading that. thanks escrobinNasty incident
You LOOK OUT OF THE F*****g WINDOW in the circuit. Sometimes, despite that, s
te happens.
Bloody poor reporting.
As for xxx flew at yy mph. Anyone who tells me that Aircrew fly in mph* is automatically put in the iggy bin along with idiots that refer to 'planes', 'loop the loops' or 'stunt flying'.
*We don't. We fly in Knots (Nautical Miles per hour) for perfectly good reason.** ***
** 1 Nautical mile subtends 1 minute of arc at the centre of the earth on any Great Circle. Additionally it means you can use the '1 in 60 rule' which makes navigation easy, and you can tie said rule into time (because time is based in 60s) which makes speed calculations (such as rate of descent) easy. You can't do that if you work in Statute Miles or Metres.
*** The Russians and Chinese fly in metres and it is complete bowlocks!
te happens.Bloody poor reporting.
As for xxx flew at yy mph. Anyone who tells me that Aircrew fly in mph* is automatically put in the iggy bin along with idiots that refer to 'planes', 'loop the loops' or 'stunt flying'.
*We don't. We fly in Knots (Nautical Miles per hour) for perfectly good reason.** ***
** 1 Nautical mile subtends 1 minute of arc at the centre of the earth on any Great Circle. Additionally it means you can use the '1 in 60 rule' which makes navigation easy, and you can tie said rule into time (because time is based in 60s) which makes speed calculations (such as rate of descent) easy. You can't do that if you work in Statute Miles or Metres.
*** The Russians and Chinese fly in metres and it is complete bowlocks!
Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Saturday 29th August 21:49
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
** 1 Nautical mile subtends 1 minute of arc at the centre of the earth on any Great Circle. Additionally it means you can use the '1 in 60 rule' which makes navigation easy, and you can tie said rule into time (because time is based in 60s) which makes speed calculations (such as rate of descent) easy. You can't do that if you work in Statute Miles or Metres.
Does anyone know why they havent metriced degrees and made a 1000 in a circle yet?As 360 days didnt work, they could also make 1000 days per year with the odd adjustment sometime, to allow for revo;ution of the sun
100 days per month, 10 months per year
Change the length of time so there are 1000 seconds in a day,
10 seconds per minute, 10 mins per hour, 10 hours per day
I like 60s and 12s
20' that’s MILES away..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaLjPjLTyDA
note information on HUD showing the ol "bombing line" etc...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaLjPjLTyDA
note information on HUD showing the ol "bombing line" etc...
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saaby93 said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
** 1 Nautical mile subtends 1 minute of arc at the centre of the earth on any Great Circle. Additionally it means you can use the '1 in 60 rule' which makes navigation easy, and you can tie said rule into time (because time is based in 60s) which makes speed calculations (such as rate of descent) easy. You can't do that if you work in Statute Miles or Metres.
Does anyone know why they havent metriced degrees and made a 1000 in a circle yet?As 360 days didnt work, they could also make 1000 days per year with the odd adjustment sometime, to allow for revo;ution of the sun
100 days per month, 10 months per year
Change the length of time so there are 1000 seconds in a day,
10 seconds per minute, 10 mins per hour, 10 hours per day
I like 60s and 12s
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
You LOOK OUT OF THE F*****g WINDOW in the circuit. Sometimes, despite that, ste happens.
Bloody poor reporting.
As for xxx flew at yy mph. Anyone who tells me that Aircrew fly in mph* is automatically put in the iggy bin along with idiots that refer to 'planes', 'loop the loops' or 'stunt flying'.
*We don't. We fly in Knots (Nautical Miles per hour) for perfectly good reason.** ***
** 1 Nautical mile subtends 1 minute of arc at the centre of the earth on any Great Circle. Additionally it means you can use the '1 in 60 rule' which makes navigation easy, and you can tie said rule into time (because time is based in 60s) which makes speed calculations (such as rate of descent) easy. You can't do that if you work in Statute Miles or Metres.
*** The Russians and Chinese fly in metres and it is complete bowlocks!
Something I've always wondered about knots.te happens.Bloody poor reporting.
As for xxx flew at yy mph. Anyone who tells me that Aircrew fly in mph* is automatically put in the iggy bin along with idiots that refer to 'planes', 'loop the loops' or 'stunt flying'.
*We don't. We fly in Knots (Nautical Miles per hour) for perfectly good reason.** ***
** 1 Nautical mile subtends 1 minute of arc at the centre of the earth on any Great Circle. Additionally it means you can use the '1 in 60 rule' which makes navigation easy, and you can tie said rule into time (because time is based in 60s) which makes speed calculations (such as rate of descent) easy. You can't do that if you work in Statute Miles or Metres.
*** The Russians and Chinese fly in metres and it is complete bowlocks!
From the way they are described surely moving 'one knot' is further at altitude than at surface level?
Hooli said:
Something I've always wondered about knots.
From the way they are described surely moving 'one knot' is further at altitude than at surface level?
No more than miles per hour would as the definition of the length of a nautical mile is constant and the definition of an hour is constant. From the way they are described surely moving 'one knot' is further at altitude than at surface level?
You just move one nautical mile per hour through the air instead of along the ground.
rkem said:
Hooli said:
Something I've always wondered about knots.
From the way they are described surely moving 'one knot' is further at altitude than at surface level?
No more than miles per hour would as the definition of the length of a nautical mile is constant and the definition of an hour is constant. From the way they are described surely moving 'one knot' is further at altitude than at surface level?
You just move one nautical mile per hour through the air instead of along the ground.
But then surely the hight you fly at means the arc you describe around the earth gets longer to move the same distance along the surface. Hence my question, the way a knot is described makes me think it's equal to a set surface distance, yet fly higher and due to the size of the arc you travel further than the surface distance.
jjones said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
*We don't. We fly in Knots (Nautical Miles per hour) for perfectly good reason.** ***
My ASI is in MPH, should I contact the CAA or something?Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Saturday 29th August 21:49
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