Aircraft you should have seen but haven't.

Aircraft you should have seen but haven't.

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HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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J4CKO said:
Would love to see a 747 SP fly again, last time I saw one was at Geneva, Feb 1st 2003, same day as the Columbia Disaster, think it was the Royal Bahrain flight.
I've flown on the 747SP to Tehran as a youngster and they're a really nice plane to fly in, wide but not too long!

Boring factoid........the tail on the 747SP is actually taller than the regular 747 yes

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Smollet said:
Would loved to have seen the Valkyrie fly. I've seen a B1 but not a B2. Also love to see a B52. Are there any Hustlers still flying?
No Hustlers. They were retired in 1970 after a fairly short service life and sent to the Desert Boneyard very quickly for breaking up.

Mr_B

10,480 posts

243 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Hooli said:
Eric Mc said:
I'd like to have seen one of these Typhoons fly -

Yeah, I'd love to see one of them fly & a Tempest.

Mossie too, but there is a chance of seeing one now smile Oh & Lightnings.
The long running restoration of Kermit Weeks Tempest V is at least still on track to be built to airworthy standards, and took a step closer to reality recently when restoration of the airframe was complete, in as much as it is meant to be by the British restorers, and is due to be shipped back to Florida. I believe his engine guy is talking of looking at rebuilding one of his two Sabre engines. Interesting videos on YouTube about them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0PUeUok0mI

Tango13

8,427 posts

176 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Smollet said:
Would loved to have seen the Valkyrie fly. I've seen a B1 but not a B2. Also love to see a B52. Are there any Hustlers still flying?
None of the B-58's left are flyable frown

Nerd factoid... The folding wing segments on the XB-70 are roughly the same size as the entire wing on a B-58.

aeropilot

34,566 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Smollet said:
Voldemort said:
Am I right in thinking there's a flying ME262? That's on my 'to see' list.
I believe there are some replicas but not with the original make of engines
Yes, new build recreations with modern engines are the ones all flying.......


Until Paul Allen's original, complete with rebuilt original Jumo's takes to the air again at some point in the future.

onyx39

11,120 posts

150 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Voldemort said:
Am I right in thinking there's a flying ME262? That's on my 'to see' list.
I think it was down to fly at the last Farnborough, but went tech.

williamp

19,255 posts

273 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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would love to see cold war jets flying again. I know soma countries fly them, but they don't appear at airshows anymore: Phantom, MiG25 foxbat, plus the Russian bombers Bear, badger etc. F15 too. Does the Hellenic air force still fly the starfighter? I'd buy some goodies if they flew one over with some merchandise.

aeropilot

34,566 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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williamp said:
Does the Hellenic air force still fly the starfighter?
Nope.

The Italians were the last European AF to operate the 'Hooter'.



davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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aeropilot said:
williamp said:
Does the Hellenic air force still fly the starfighter?
Nope.

The Italians were the last European AF to operate the 'Hooter'.
Greece still have F4s though, as does Iran. Iran still has Tomcats too. I bet their airshows are awesome.

aeropilot

34,566 posts

227 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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davepoth said:
Greece still have F4s though, as does Iran.
So does Japan.

And so does the USA (just) as the last batch of QF-4 drones are being fed through the system about now, I think I read that the last one is due for it's demise around November time?


BryanC

1,107 posts

238 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Another one here who wished he could have seen a Typhoon in flight.



I will admit that I once saw a Mosquito dust up the local aerodrome with a hedge-hopping appearance and the memory has always stuck with me. ( Perhaps one of the reasons we don't have air displays here any more ).

Keeping the same theme, how about a Westland Whirlwind - not the helicopter sort, but a single seater with twin engines at full throttle and 4 x 20mm cannon in the nose.



The nearest I ever got was courtesy of Airfix !

Riley Blue

20,952 posts

226 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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It would have to be the Horten Ho229 for me. Incredible to think that 'stealth' technology was incorporated into an aircraft that flew in the 1940s.

Truffles

577 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Civil: VC10 (seen an IL62 though); 707;

Military: Lightning; Victor; Valiant; Javelin; Draken; Viggen. Not sure if the B36 was still flying when I was born in 1961, but in case it was, I can add that to the list too.

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Riley Blue said:
It would have to be the Horten Ho229 for me. Incredible to think that 'stealth' technology was incorporated into an aircraft that flew in the 1940s.
Was it?

The Horten brothers were into flying wings before radar was even thought of.

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Truffles said:
Civil: VC10 (seen an IL62 though); 707;

Military: Lightning; Victor; Valiant; Javelin; Draken; Viggen. Not sure if the B36 was still flying when I was born in 1961, but in case it was, I can add that to the list too.
There are still lots of 707 and their derivatives knocking about - so you should have no trouble seeing at least one of the variants flying.

The E-3 AWACs aircraft are essentially 707s.

The KC-135 tankers and other C-135 variants are from the same family (although fundamentally different in many ways).

Riley Blue

20,952 posts

226 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Riley Blue said:
It would have to be the Horten Ho229 for me. Incredible to think that 'stealth' technology was incorporated into an aircraft that flew in the 1940s.
Was it?

The Horten brothers were into flying wings before radar was even thought of.
It wasn't just the flying wing shape that made the Ho226 less visible to radar.

Eric Mc

121,992 posts

265 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Was that an intended consequence of the design or something they discovered when testing? Indeed, they did precious little testing and suffered one fatal accident.

Wiki seems to confirm this -

"Since the appearance of the B-2 Spirit flying-wing stealth bomber in the 1990s, its similarities in role and shape to the Ho 229 has led many to retrospectively describe the Ho 229 as "the first stealth bomber".[3] A static reproduction of the only surviving Ho 229 prototype, the Ho 229 V3, in American hands since the end of World War II was constructed in the very early 21st century and later tested by the U.S. military, who found the basic shape, paint and laminating adhesive composition of the mockup copy would provide for 37% reduction in detection range against the British Chain Home radar of the 1940s, but no significant stealth benefit against most other contemporary radar systems.[3]".

Magog

2,652 posts

189 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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SR-71 specifically for me, but as a leftfield choice would also loved to have seen a Convair 990 or 880.


dudleybloke

19,814 posts

186 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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V-22 Osprey.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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davepoth said:
Lufthansa's historical flight owns one that's still (sort of) in revenue service. You can book a seat here:

http://www.dlbs.de/de/Ju-52-Rund-und-Streckenflueg...
I think I saw one of those flying around Munich.