Concorde to fly again ?

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johnnyreggae

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2,935 posts

160 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Don't shoot the messenger please http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/travel/83904/con...

One for display and subsequently one for flight - perhaps

pincher

8,540 posts

217 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Unlikely I'd have thought, but you never know.....

I'd love to see it happen but surely there are just too many hurdles to overcome? I can't see it being granted an airworthiness certificate (assuming it would need one)?

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Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Who's put up the £120m mentioned in the piece? Seems very doubtful to me that anybody with that kind of money has decided to spend it on this.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Munter said:
Who's put up the £120m mentioned in the piece? Seems very doubtful to me that anybody with that kind of money has decided to spend it on this.
Oh I don't know, if I had a spare £120 mil I'd spend it on Concorde smile

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Has all the hallmarks of a scam to me.

As has been discussed many, many times here, getting a Concorde into the air is nothing to do with money.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Has all the hallmarks of a scam to me.

As has been discussed many, many times here, getting a Concorde into the air is nothing to do with money.
i don;t see Airbus suddenly turning round and rolling overon the DA /EA stuff

as RR Aero are unwilling to support the none afterburning aero application Olympus engines i don;t see them supporting the 593s in Concorde...

PurpleTurtle

6,977 posts

144 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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"They have two aims: firstly, to place one of the aircraft on a purpose-built platform positioned by the London Eye and above the Thames"

Eh? How exactly are they going to a) get approval for and b) physically achieve that?

Much as I'd love to see the old bird gracing the skies again this has non-starter writ large all over it.

Sarah Billington

7 posts

103 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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It's never going to fly again.

Ever.

Don't waste another moment even thinking about it.

Gargamel

14,974 posts

261 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Well as much as I rate this as incredibly unlikely - I wish them well with the many hurdles they face.

Would be awesome even f the only manage stage one and get a concorde shaped resturant in place.

I would guess it would come in by river !


Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Gargamel said:
Would be awesome even f the only manage stage one and get a concorde shaped resturant in place.
Agreed that would be awesome, but concorde isn't going to fly again.

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Not a snowball's chance in hell sadly.

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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There's no mission of a concorde flying again.

Bradgate

2,821 posts

147 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Like most people in aviation, I would love to see a Concorde flying again, but I'm very sceptical about this 'plan'.

In order to get an aircraft flying again the support and co-operation of the aircraft's owners, BA & AF, together with its manufacturer, Airbus and engine maker RR would be required. As far as I am aware, none of those organisations has any intention of participating.

Without them on board, it simply isn't going to happen.


aeropilot

34,526 posts

227 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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mph1977 said:
Eric Mc said:
Has all the hallmarks of a scam to me.

As has been discussed many, many times here, getting a Concorde into the air is nothing to do with money.
i don;t see Airbus suddenly turning round and rolling overon the DA /EA stuff

as RR Aero are unwilling to support the none afterburning aero application Olympus engines i don;t see them supporting the 593s in Concorde...
Exactly..... (not to mention I don't think there are any certified with paperwork 593's anywhere, and wasn't all the special intake gubbins removed from all of them after their last flights?)

As already mentioned, no Concorde will ever fly again....full stop. The end. Finis.



Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Bradgate said:
Like most people in aviation, I would love to see a Concorde flying again, but I'm very sceptical about this 'plan'.

In order to get an aircraft flying again the support and co-operation of the aircraft's owners, BA & AF, together with its manufacturer, Airbus and engine maker RR would be required. As far as I am aware, none of those organisations has any intention of participating.

Without them on board, it simply isn't going to happen.
Personally id love to see a viable new generation supersonic airliner in our skies but I don't think that will happen in my life time either frown

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Foliage said:
Personally id love to see a viable new generation supersonic airliner in our skies but I don't think that will happen in my life time either frown
How old are you? If you have another 20+ years left I'd wager you will see another supersonic airliner.

My grandfather was born before powered flight and died the day the Sukhoi Su-30 first flew.

Sarah Billington

7 posts

103 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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It won't happen again.

There is little market for it, environmentally it's horrendous, the safety standards of today wouldn't allow it as it was always fairly ropey safety wise.

It's gone forever.

Le Mans Visitor

1,119 posts

202 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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IIRC when Richard Branson was sniffing around getting it airborne BA scrapped the airworthy certs (to stop a rival company taking the glory) and once they have been lost there is no way it can be reissued

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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I don't think the Branson offer was really anything more than a bit of publicity.

As I understand, Air France wanted out, and I don't think Airbus were too keen on having people employed on a bespoke fleet.

This meant the full maintenance costs would now have to have been footed by BA. BA tried to negotiate an extension until 2004, which was the end of their Barbados timetable, but Airbus wanted to pull the plug earlier.

Branson did not have the pilots, ground crew/engineering team to do it, and would pilots (some with many years service with BA) have really wanted to jump ship to Virgin?

With the decline in the market at the time, the death of many business travellers in 9/11, it meant that even with healthy loadings, BA could not not support all operational costs by themselves.


TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Friday 18th September 2015
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Smells like the kinda crap you get on kickstarter.

Some guy comes up with a fascinating idea, draws in stupid people, gives up at the end, but has a hell of a ride in the meantime.