Flying Scotsman

[droopsnoot]

Does this help? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/

ETA - maybe not, it's just arrivals and departures for timetable trains by the look of it. This looks a bit more interesting: http://raildar.co.uk/radar

Just depends on whether it covers steam specials or only scheduled stuff again.

Edited by droopsnoot on Wednesday 11th May 18:50

[rs1952]

droopsnoot said:

Does this help? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/

ETA - maybe not, it's just arrivals and departures for timetable trains by the look of it. This looks a bit more interesting: http://raildar.co.uk/radar

Just depends on whether it covers steam specials or only scheduled stuff again.

Realtime trains covers everything moving through any location on their "detailed" view. It will show steam specials, but in railway "speak" so you have to know what you're looking for.

If you know what date it is running, and what route it is taking, it will be there. Here is an example from today, when "Tornado ran from Victoria to Bristol - shown as "128J 0844 Victoria to Bristol Temple Meads" http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U53012/2016/...

[Lugy]

I'll keep a look on the Raildar site, although it seems to be missing one of the local trains but there's every chance it's been cancelled!

[MrAndyW]

Thinks for the tips, will check them out and see how it goes.
Andy.

[MrAndyW]

It's only steam from York, So won't see it in Doncaster, Found this though for any of you lucky enough.



Now this Saturday, May 14, the locomotive will pass through Durham and Newcastle on a one-way trip from York to Edinburgh.

It is expected into Durham at 4.40pm that day and should roll through Newcastle at 5pm on its way to Edinburgh, where passengers will alight for a three-day break. So you might be able to catch a glimpse of the train as it heads up through Northumberland towards the Scottish borders.

Flying Scotsman is touring the UK throughout the summer, starting on Tuesday, May 10 when it makes a return journey from York to Newcastle , and then on Saturday 14 May a one way trip from York to Edinburgh.

Network Rail will not be advertising recommended viewing points up and down the line, after crowds filled fields between London and York when The Flying Scotsman made its return to the tracks on February 25.

Both Virgin Trains North East and Network Rail are urging people not to tresspass or stand near the tracks to view the Flying Scotsman as it passes through the region.

[NEEP]

I hear the Scottish Borders run and the run over the Forth Bridge have been cancelled

[RyanOPlasty]

NEEP said:

I hear the Scottish Borders run and the run over the Forth Bridge have been cancelled

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotla...

[Lugy]

MrAndyW said:

It's only steam from York, So won't see it in Doncaster, Found this though for any of you lucky enough.



Now this Saturday, May 14, the locomotive will pass through Durham and Newcastle on a one-way trip from York to Edinburgh.

It is expected into Durham at 4.40pm that day and should roll through Newcastle at 5pm on its way to Edinburgh, where passengers will alight for a three-day break. So you might be able to catch a glimpse of the train as it heads up through Northumberland towards the Scottish borders.

Flying Scotsman is touring the UK throughout the summer, starting on Tuesday, May 10 when it makes a return journey from York to Newcastle , and then on Saturday 14 May a one way trip from York to Edinburgh.

Network Rail will not be advertising recommended viewing points up and down the line, after crowds filled fields between London and York when The Flying Scotsman made its return to the tracks on February 25.

Both Virgin Trains North East and Network Rail are urging people not to tresspass or stand near the tracks to view the Flying Scotsman as it passes through the region.

I came across that too, thinking it should pass through East Lothian between 6:30/7:00pm. If I've got time later I might go and see if I can see it.

[tim0409]

Lugy said:

I came across that too, thinking it should pass through East Lothian between 6:30/7:00pm. If I've got time later I might go and see if I can see it.

I'm going to see it at Drem or Ballencrieff - from what I saw on Twitter is should be around 8.40pm but will check and post times when I get on my laptop.

[Lugy]

tim0409 said:

I'm going to see it at Drem or Ballencrieff - from what I saw on Twitter is should be around 8.40pm but will check and post times when I get on my laptop.

Ah boo, I've got a 30th party to go to so might not see it after all. I guess it will need to stop for fuel/water on it's journey so would take a bit longer than I thought!

However, it's back on for tomorrow....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotla...

[RichB]

RyanOPlasty said:

NEEP said:

I hear the Scottish Borders run and the run over the Forth Bridge have been cancelled

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotla...

Reinstated now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotla...

[RichB]

rs1952 said:

droopsnoot said:

Does this help? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/

ETA - maybe not, it's just arrivals and departures for timetable trains by the look of it. This looks a bit more interesting: http://raildar.co.uk/radar

Just depends on whether it covers steam specials or only scheduled stuff again.

Realtime trains covers everything moving through any location on their "detailed" view. It will show steam specials, but in railway "speak" so you have to know what you're looking for.

If you know what date it is running, and what route it is taking, it will be there. Here is an example from today, when "Tornado ran from Victoria to Bristol - shown as "128J 0844 Victoria to Bristol Temple Meads" http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U53012/2016/...

How can you figure out that that is Torado? INdeed the info on the web page says it's a "Diesel locomotive, trailing load 420 tonnes"

[tim0409]

Lugy said:

tim0409 said:

I'm going to see it at Drem or Ballencrieff - from what I saw on Twitter is should be around 8.40pm but will check and post times when I get on my laptop.

Ah boo, I've got a 30th party to go to so might not see it after all. I guess it will need to stop for fuel/water on it's journey so would take a bit longer than I thought!

However, it's back on for tomorrow....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotla...

Passing through Drem station tonight.

[salguod]

^ nice shot!

I'm quite happy it is back on tomorrow. Not so much that no times are being withheld but the reasons I suppose are valid (although those who do trespass are plonkers).

If I had also known when it was arriving in Waverley tonight I might have gone along. Ah well!

I know I'm only 26, but steam trains, in particular the Flying Scotsman are just brilliant.

[Lugy]

I'm a bit gutted I didn't see it chugging along under it's own power. I gather there's no way for it to turn round at Waverley so it'll be 'reversing' back down the Border's Railway and coming back the right way? I guess the evening Fife Circle will be right way round too?

[rs1952]

RichB said:

rs1952 said:

droopsnoot said:

Does this help? http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/

ETA - maybe not, it's just arrivals and departures for timetable trains by the look of it. This looks a bit more interesting: http://raildar.co.uk/radar

Just depends on whether it covers steam specials or only scheduled stuff again.

Realtime trains covers everything moving through any location on their "detailed" view. It will show steam specials, but in railway "speak" so you have to know what you're looking for.

If you know what date it is running, and what route it is taking, it will be there. Here is an example from today, when "Tornado ran from Victoria to Bristol - shown as "128J 0844 Victoria to Bristol Temple Meads" http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U53012/2016/...

How can you figure out that that is Torado? INdeed the info on the web page says it's a "Diesel locomotive, trailing load 420 tonnes"

That's one of the things you need to figure out - Realtime trans don't tell you when a steam locomotive is involved, they only mention the diesel that is (or at least hopefully will be) only going along for a ride at the back

What to look for:

1. The train is going from Victoria to Bath and Bristol. Nothing in the regular timetable does that.

2. It is timed for 75mph max. This is the maximum for steam and also, for example, many DMUs so it is only a small additional factor that points you in the right direction

3. It is booked an 18-minute stop at Newbury Racecourse station. This station has no regular service, only a few occasional specials on race days. It is also booked to stop there for 18 minutes. This is because Newbury Racecourse station is a regular water stop for steam locomotives using the Berks & Hants line. As it happened on the day, there was no water there to take because the M4 was shut, but the timetablers wouldn't have known that in advance! More info in case anybody is interested: http://www.bristol-rail.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?...

[RichB]

rs1952 said:

That's one of the things you need to figure out - Realtime trans don't tell you when a steam locomotive is involved, they only mention the diesel that is (or at least hopefully will be) only going along for a ride at the back

What to look for:

1. The train is going from Victoria to Bath and Bristol. Nothing in the regular timetable does that.

2. It is timed for 75mph max. This is the maximum for steam and also, for example, many DMUs so it is only a small additional factor that points you in the right direction

3. It is booked an 18-minute stop at Newbury Racecourse station. This station has no regular service, only a few occasional specials on race days. It is also booked to stop there for 18 minutes. This is because Newbury Racecourse station is a regular water stop for steam locomotives using the Berks & Hants line. As it happened on the day, there was no water there to take because the M4 was shut, but the timetablers wouldn't have known that in advance! More info in case anybody is interested: http://www.bristol-rail.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?...

Great, thanks. I spotted the 75mph limit but didn't know that's limit for "multis" - however as you say the route is also a good clue.

[Halmyre]

Crossing the Forth Bridge

https://www.facebook.com/theweerestaurant/videos/1...

Is the loco at the back giving it a shove I wonder!?

[droopsnoot]

I thought the trailing diesel was there as a backup in case the steamer gets into difficulty, so as to not leave it stranded blocking a main line. I don't know whether they do anything if the steam loco is working normally, though.

[Dalmahoy]

Out walking the hound last night and right past it went.
Even got a wave from the driver!