Which jetski

[hosedoctor]

Hi guys I'm thinking of getting a jetski for the summer,but not sure what to go for,im looking for something that's fast? I've had fast power boats before anyone starts with the health and safety ball crap!! LOL . Any models I should steer clear of?
Not looking to buy brand new as I'm sick n tired of blowing my brains out after the novelty wears off!

[hosedoctor]

Equus said:

Just have 'I'm an antisocial wker ' tattooed across your forehead - it's subtler, less inclined to draw negative reaction from strangers and far less chavvy.

I only asked what's a good fast jetski to buy. And here we go again there is always some snidy little no mark with plenty to say for themselves! I bet if you was standing in front of me they wouldn't be so smart mouthed..

[utgjon]

hosedoctor said:

Equus said:

... as an amusing aside, I read your name to be HoRseDoctor, which would have made your exchange with Equus quite funny.

[hosedoctor]

Equus said:

You'd be surprised. I have words to say with tossers on Jetskis on a regular basis.

Come down to Essex and you would probly only do it the once

[AlanMinium]

That escalated quickly!

Its the same with every sport/hobby. Walkers hate cyclists who hate 4x4 who hate horse rider who hate walkers etc etc

Yachters hate power boaters who hate jetskiers who hate kayakers. I have a power boat, jetski and a kayak and I KNOW I'm looked down on by the "proper" sailors. Why cant everyone just appreciate that there are nice people who might want to jet ski and there will be absolute aholes who like to sail yachts. Stop tarring everyone with the same brush.

For what its worth, I've had a Seadoo wake edition for 10 years and its not missed a beat, hardly cost me a think and is still worth half what I paid for it, which is remarkable. That said, I've just bought a new supercharged Yam FX SVHO with 300bhp - should be fun if my arms stay in their sockets!

To recap - respect each other, be nice, share, be safe and enjoy yourselves!

[hosedoctor]

AlanMinium said:

That escalated quickly!

Its the same with every sport/hobby. Walkers hate cyclists who hate 4x4 who hate horse rider who hate walkers etc etc

Yachters hate power boaters who hate jetskiers who hate kayakers. I have a power boat, jetski and a kayak and I KNOW I'm looked down on by the "proper" sailors. Why cant everyone just appreciate that there are nice people who might want to jet ski and there will be absolute aholes who like to sail yachts. Stop tarring everyone with the same brush.

For what its worth, I've had a Seadoo wake edition for 10 years and its not missed a beat, hardly cost me a think and is still worth half what I paid for it, which is remarkable. That said, I've just bought a new supercharged Yam FX SVHO with 300bhp - should be fun if my arms stay in their sockets!

To recap - respect each other, be nice, share, be safe and enjoy yourselves!

Thanks for that mate. Thats all I was looking for. I don't come on here much now as of the smart remarks from little boys hiding behind the web. Anyway what's the seadoo 215 like,I had a go on one last year and it seem OK?

[Turquoise]

Equus said:

Just have 'I'm an antisocial wker ' tattooed across your forehead - it's subtler, less inclined to draw negative reaction from strangers and far less chavvy.

Any need for that?

wker.
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Tosser.

Ironic you mention drawing negative reaction from strangers, yet speak in such a manner.

[hosedoctor]

Equus said:

I apologise unreservedly : you clearly don't need the tattoo.

Clearly! Tell you what let's make this easy for you email me your address and I'll come see you and I can show you I haven't got a tattoo or would you prefer to hide behind your daddy's computer???

[AlanMinium]

Actually jet skis are, very obviously, motorbikes on the sea. They can be fast, noisy, fun and, used responsibly, safe.

As with all these things, idiots give everyone a bad name, doesn't mean everyones an idiot!

[Turquoise]

Equus said:

Turquoise said:

Any need for that?

I was merely pointing out that it's the general perception of jetskiers by anyone except a jetskier.

Contrary to Alan's post, there is no hierarchy where jetskiers find themselves in the middle. Everyone despises them, from yachties down to kayakers, swimmers and sunbathers. They're the marine equivalent of a gobby oik in a barried Corsa, innit bro?

Your opinion.

But stating your opinion as fact, doesn't make it so.

[Turquoise]

You have said that basically anyone who goes on water despises jet skiers. Thats hyperbole.

So recite your personal experience/opinion instead of making sweeping statements purporting that you speak for everyone who's ever been on the water.

Your argument will benefit from it.

[belleair302]

The question is budget, how important is speed vs handling and are you brand specific or concerned about ease of servicing? Once these have been answered am happy to suggest the merits of one over another.

[SHutchinson]

Turquoise said:

You have said that basically anyone who goes on water despises jet skiers. Thats hyperbole.

So recite your personal experience/opinion instead of making sweeping statements purporting that you speak for everyone who's ever been on the water.

Your argument will benefit from it.

It's not just people on the water. I live next to a river, the jet skiers I encounter are all law breakers whilst being anti social.

[Disastrous]

hosedoctor said:

Equus said:

I apologise unreservedly : you clearly don't need the tattoo.

Clearly! Tell you what let's make this easy for you email me your address and I'll come see you and I can show you I haven't got a tattoo or would you prefer to hide behind your daddy's computer???

You should definitely get a jetski. The fastest, biggest one you can.

[hosedoctor]

belleair302 said:

The question is budget, how important is speed vs handling and are you brand specific or concerned about ease of servicing? Once these have been answered am happy to suggest the merits of one over another.

Hi there,i want to spend around 10k,ans as for servicing it i wont be doing it myself (wouldnt know where to start) lol. Not botherd on the make and as regards speed/ handling is suppose a bit of both really? As i said on the OP i just want something for the summer,or what we het of it! Lol

[Stu R]

They're heaps of fun, no reason not to if you're so inclined. If we all passed up great hobbies because of some curtain twitching Melvin getting precious about it then there'd be no sports car, bike or aviation enthusiasts. Similarly, don't be a dick when you're on the water.

Few things I was told when asking about buying which rung true:

1) They can be pretty expensive to maintain even if you're good at getting your hands dirty
2) You'll never use them as often as you'd like to think you will
3) It gets boring pretty quickly if you haven't got friends with them too, or a club to ride with.

As for what to buy, it depends on where you're riding, how you're riding and what your experience level is. I've always been a fan of wave runners - started with a holiday rental and ended up buying one. Recently defected to a Kawasaki 310R, they're a serious piece of kit but I'm not sure I'd recommend one for first timers - I'm no expert and I've only had the Kawa on the water twice but it's a different beast entirely to the all-rounder it replaced.

SeaDoo seem decent too but their dealer was further away than I could be bothered with. My buddy rides one and loves it though.

Honestly, it's not for everybody. Try it first; find a rental place and put a few hundred quid in their pocket over the course of a couple of months before buying. Hour for hour it won't be much more expensive than running your own. Modifying them is basically tantamount to burning piles of cash.

[hosedoctor]

Stu R said:

They're heaps of fun, no reason not to if you're so inclined. If we all passed up great hobbies because of some curtain twitching Melvin getting precious about it then there'd be no sports car, bike or aviation enthusiasts. Similarly, don't be a dick when you're on the water.

Few things I was told when asking about buying which rung true:

1) They can be pretty expensive to maintain even if you're good at getting your hands dirty
2) You'll never use them as often as you'd like to think you will
3) It gets boring pretty quickly if you haven't got friends with them too, or a club to ride with.

As for what to buy, it depends on where you're riding, how you're riding and what your experience level is. I've always been a fan of wave runners - started with a holiday rental and ended up buying one. Recently defected to a Kawasaki 310R, they're a serious piece of kit but I'm not sure I'd recommend one for first timers - I'm no expert and I've only had the Kawa on the water twice but it's a different beast entirely to the all-rounder it replaced.

SeaDoo seem decent too but their dealer was further away than I could be bothered with. My buddy rides one and loves it though.

Honestly, it's not for everybody. Try it first; find a rental place and put a few hundred quid in their pocket over the course of a couple of months before buying. Hour for hour it won't be much more expensive than running your own. Modifying them is basically tantamount to burning piles of cash.

Thanks stu 😊😊

[Big Al.]

OK anymore bhing and this thread goes.

[berlintaxi]

hosedoctor said:

Stu R said:

They're heaps of fun, no reason not to if you're so inclined. If we all passed up great hobbies because of some curtain twitching Melvin getting precious about it then there'd be no sports car, bike or aviation enthusiasts. Similarly, don't be a dick when you're on the water.

Few things I was told when asking about buying which rung true:

1) They can be pretty expensive to maintain even if you're good at getting your hands dirty
2) You'll never use them as often as you'd like to think you will
3) It gets boring pretty quickly if you haven't got friends with them too, or a club to ride with.

As for what to buy, it depends on where you're riding, how you're riding and what your experience level is. I've always been a fan of wave runners - started with a holiday rental and ended up buying one. Recently defected to a Kawasaki 310R, they're a serious piece of kit but I'm not sure I'd recommend one for first timers - I'm no expert and I've only had the Kawa on the water twice but it's a different beast entirely to the all-rounder it replaced.

SeaDoo seem decent too but their dealer was further away than I could be bothered with. My buddy rides one and loves it though.

Honestly, it's not for everybody. Try it first; find a rental place and put a few hundred quid in their pocket over the course of a couple of months before buying. Hour for hour it won't be much more expensive than running your own. Modifying them is basically tantamount to burning piles of cash.

Thanks stu ????

You can't really go wrong with a wave runner, bullet proof engines and easy to handle, good starter jet ski and hold their price well.

[Jaguar steve]

Big Al. said:

OK anymore bhing and this thread goes.

I'll assume you're a mod so let's look at the reported evidence and facts instead.


MALDON STANDARD:

IT will only be a matter of time before “mindless” jet ski users cause a death on the water in the Maldon district.

That is the warning from Det Con Simon Lofting, of the Burnham based Essex Police Marine Unit, after officers stopped nine people speeding on jet skis during an operation at the weekend.

There have been numerous complaints about the problem in the district, but particularly at Mill Beach in Goldhanger, where one person was caught at the weekend, and Mayland Creek, near to Steeple Bay Caravan Park, where eight people were caught.

The speed limit in these areas and across most of the county is eight knots, roughly 10mph, but speeds recorded at the weekend were close to and more than 40mph.

Some people were also not insured.

Det Con Lofting said: “What we witnessed at the weekend was mindless.

“They were flying up and down in the moorings when children and swimmers were in the water, there was no respect for them, other craft users or anyone enforcing speed limits but they will hopefully be prosecuted and go to court.

“Someone could get hit really hard and there will be a serious accident or someone will get killed as a result.”

All nine people caught at the weekend will be reported to Maldon District Council.

Speeding on the water is a civil court matter and can land offenders with a fine anywhere between £1,000 and £1,200.

Det Con Lofting said any reports of irresponsible behaviour on jet skis will be taken seriously and targeted by officers.

He said: “We are actively working with the river bailiff, Nigel Harmer, to stop, report and prosecute everyone acting irresponsibly on jet skis and personal watercraft.

“There is no excuse for it, every slip way shows clearly where the limit is and there are bright yellow buoys that mark out where it applies.”

Det Con Lofting urges anyone with complaints about jet skis to contact the marine unit on 01621 782121 or e-mail [e-mail]


DAILY TELEGRAPH:

Owners 'throw their brains away' once on the water

By Andrew English, Motoring Correspondent

They are called the Romford Navy - the hordes of jet-skis on trailers towed to the Essex coast each summer weekend.

These sleek craft weigh as much as half a ton, with powerful petrol engines capable of reaching speeds in excess of 60mph and no qualifications required of their riders.

"Because they are under 12 metres, there are no minimum-age requirements, no speed limits, no training requirements and no specific alcohol limits for PWCs [personal water craft]," said a spokesman for the Maritime and Coast Guard Agency.

"They do come under the International Maritime Collision Laws, so if someone is doing something particularly stupid we can prosecute." Personal water craft were born out of the snow mobile industry in the late 1960s, to maintain production in the summer.

Not everyone is so keen on the two-stroke buzz of speeding jet-skis, however. "When we did allow jet-skis on the Camel estuary, the telephone lines were white-hot with complaints," said Capt Trevor Platt, port administrator in Padstow, Cornwall. "Before launching jet-skis, owners can appear to be the most reasonable people, but on the water they throw their brains away."


ESSEX COUNTY STANDARD:

MARINE cops are warning lives could be put at risk by rogue jet skiers.

Thrillseekers who break strict speed limits are a growing menace on the Essex coastline.

Dawn Smith, of Essex Police’s marine unit, said it was getting worse every year.

Mrs Smith said: “As soon as the weather starts getting nice, they come out and start doing this sort of thing.

“You can go on Ebay and buy a jet ski without any insurance or MoT certificates.”

The warning comes after video footage of jet skis racing between moored boats at West Mersea was posted on the YouTube website.

The waves created by the racers can be seen splashing into other boats.

The film was taken by freelance sailing journalist Dylan Winter, who was on assignment, when he spotted the jet skis and turned his camera on them.

He said: “They are a danger to other people because of the amount of wash they produce.

“They put people travelling to their boats on dinghies at risk.

“Brightlingsea is thick with them as well. I always point my camera at them as it slows them down.”

Mrs Smith said: “It’s no different to what we get every single day. It will happen again. At Maldon, they do it in swimming areas.

“If you are on a jet ski doing 30 knots, the chances of seeing a swimmer in the water are pretty slim.

“There are plenty of places on the Blackwater where you can take your jet ski and spin around as much as you like.

“But it’s going to cause damage where boats are moored.

“It can also damage wildlife by pushing the wash on to the shore where birds nest.”

The water-borne boy racers who appear at weekends and holidays have been dubbed the “Romford Navy” by locals.

The marine unit is warning jet skiers they could be prosecuted and fined for riding their machines recklessly and are patrolling coastal communities to monitor the situation.


BRAINTREE CHRONICLE:

FOUR jet ski riders and one speedboat driver have been prosecuted for travelling three times over the speed limit on the River Colne.

Steven ****** 29, of Yare Avenue, Witham, pleaded guilty to riding a Seadoo RXP water bike at 25 nautical miles per hour in July.

All five defendants appeared at Colchester Magistrates' Court charged with breaching a Colchester bylaw which states that a pleasure vehicle must not exceed a speed limit of eight nautical miles per hour in the river at Brightlingsea.

Cllr Annie Feltham, Colchester Borough Council member for communities and leisure services, said: "We are pleased that Colchester Magistrates' Court has upheld our prosecutions.

"Speed limits are in place to prevent anti-social behaviour and ensure the safety of all river users."

Mr ****** was fined £100, ordered to pay £250 costs and a £20 victim surcharge at the hearing on December 6.

The other jet ski riders were David ****** 36, of Richard Avenue, Wivenhoe, Michael ****** 37, of Hazelville Road, London and Thomas ****** 29, of Dukes Avenue, Theydon Bois.

The speedboat driver was ******** of Peto Avenue, Colchester.


There. No opinions and no bhing. Simply the facts around 4 cases found with a couple of minutes Googling.

Anybody familiar with the water off the Essex coast will tell you these are just the tip of the iceberg and will have plenty more instances of mindless stupidity to relate. There's plenty of completely unrestricted areas clearly shown on marine charts where you can go as fast as you like so there's no excuses either.

Hardly surprising then both the sailing and powerboat - I do both BTW - communities on the Essex and Suffolk coasts regard the vast majority of jetskiers with utter contempt.