Which jetski

[berlintaxi]

mph1977 said:

berlintaxi said:

mph1977 said:

berlintaxi said:

Jaguar steve said:

Big Al. said:

OK anymore bhing and this thread goes.

I'll assume you're a mod so let's look at the reported evidence and facts instead.


MALDON STANDARD: etc .etc.

As much the fault of the authorities as the "idiot" jetski users, the vast majority of launch sites will ask to see proof of insurance when you register and before you launch and many now also require you to have completed the RYA jetski course, of course there are idiot owners who use them with no training or respect for other people, but the same is true of powerboats and cars.

and impossible to enforce in coastal areas ...

Not at all, simple have the harbour master or coast guard patrolling inspecting registration tags, in my experience all councils that require registration issue a tag that must be fixed visibly to the ski.

impossible to enforce especially in places where there are hundreds if not thousands of potential launching places especially if the jet ski steerer also steers the stereotypical japanese crewcab pickup ...

It really isn't, you just need roving patrols checking registrations or even recording Datatag numbers which all skis come with when new, why is that so hard to understand?

[R8Steve]

Some absolutely ridiculous responses on this thread when all the guy wanted was a recommendation on what jetski to buy.

I've had several (so must be a tattood chav clearly) so will give you some proper advice when i get home tonight (on mobile at the moment).

Some quick advice would be to keep half of your budget in your pocket and get a good second hand one.

The newer Yamaha Waverunners/seadoos can be easily had for around 5k and are more than fast enough. Go for the best condition standard ski and you can't go far wrong. I'd probably go for a 4 stroke as well as it is much less maintenance than the 2 stroke.

It really depends what you want though, you can have wild stand up stunt skis right up to 4 seat cruisers?

[mph1977]

berlintaxi said:

mph1977 said:

berlintaxi said:

mph1977 said:

berlintaxi said:

Jaguar steve said:

Big Al. said:

OK anymore bhing and this thread goes.

I'll assume you're a mod so let's look at the reported evidence and facts instead.


MALDON STANDARD: etc .etc.

As much the fault of the authorities as the "idiot" jetski users, the vast majority of launch sites will ask to see proof of insurance when you register and before you launch and many now also require you to have completed the RYA jetski course, of course there are idiot owners who use them with no training or respect for other people, but the same is true of powerboats and cars.

and impossible to enforce in coastal areas ...

Not at all, simple have the harbour master or coast guard patrolling inspecting registration tags, in my experience all councils that require registration issue a tag that must be fixed visibly to the ski.

impossible to enforce especially in places where there are hundreds if not thousands of potential launching places especially if the jet ski steerer also steers the stereotypical japanese crewcab pickup ...

It really isn't, you just need roving patrols checking registrations or even recording Datatag numbers which all skis come with when new, why is that so hard to understand?

funded by ?

there is no funding stream in place in the UK for coastal waters and i can see a lot of other recreational water users kicking up about having to fund enforcement against jet ski wkers as it;s rather harder to hide a yacht or stink boat and many users of smaller watercraft whether sail or small power boats all ready pay handsomely for club / NGB membership to allow them to take part in the organised activities they take part in ...

[berlintaxi]

Funded by registrations and fines for people who aren't registered, you have a blinkered view of jetskis as a lawless bunch when the reality is very far from that, the vast majority are law abiding and register their craft,otherwise they couldn't launch, a small minority possibly don't but they are also plenty of untrained pissed up anti-social aholes out on sunny days in power boats, which the harbour masters monitor.

Edited by berlintaxi on Monday 18th April 17:03

[mph1977]

berlintaxi said:

Funded by registrations and fines for people who aren't registered, you have a blinkered view of jetskis as a lawless bunch when the reality is very far from that, the vast majority are law abiding and register their craft,otherwise they couldn't launch, a small minority possibly don't but they are plenty of untrained pissed up anti-social aholes out on sunny days in power boats.

no registration is required to operate a vessel under 12m in length in UK coastal waters ...

[berlintaxi]

However most councils insist that jetskis be registered to be launched from their land.

For example:
http://pwcgwynedd.co.uk/wideregistration.html

[The Moose]

I can't believe people are calling for further regulation!

[Turquoise]

mph1977 said:

hosedoctor said:

Clearly! Tell you what let's make this easy for you email me your address and I'll come see you and I can show you I haven't got a tattoo or would you prefer to hide behind your daddy's computer???

typical jet-ski steerer response ...

yet you are trying to prove that you aren't an aggressive fractional wit ...

It was the second poster who started with the anti social behaviour and swearing, not the OP.

[mph1977]

The Moose said:

I can't believe people are calling for further regulation!

i don;t think people quite realise what further registration and control would mean for all recreational boatings, not just anti social jetskiers and their 'speedboat' compadres

[JuniorD]

There should be a nobel prize for the one who invents the silent jetski.

I hate the infernal things. As a mode of A to B transport they make some degree of sense, but I simply can't understand the mentality of someone who could spend 5 mins or more just buzzing around and around for the "fun" of it.

[stuarthat]

If you need some advice on what ski to buy ,maybe a demo as such and I can recommend gs jet tech in South Woodford visit the show room and they have been involved in jetskis since the early eighties ,yes they can be a nuisance but so can motor x bikes and quads ,also there are many clubs around where you can use a race circuit practice ect stone water sports ect , I haven't been involved in jetskis for a while as such you was allowed to use the London docks near city airport , as for the noise if you have a slightly modified ski it shouldn't be to loud as most exhausts are below the water
I don't have any "tats"but once mastered they are great fun ,even when I rode back then .😄

Edited by stuarthat on Tuesday 19th April 18:36

[anonymous-user]

JuniorD said:

There should be a nobel prize for the one who invents the silent jetski.

I hate the infernal things. As a mode of A to B transport they make some degree of sense, but I simply can't understand the mentality of someone who could spend 5 mins or more just buzzing around and around for the "fun" of it.

Try one or, if you have, try one again.

I started off on sailboats and used to race them in my 20s. When I got to my 30s I decided to reward myself with a cruiser on the thames and then on the solent. In my 40s I changed to a RIB, something that could handle well and have a lot of fun with around Poole harbour. Last year, now at 51, I tried Jetskiiing around the harbour - what a hoot!.

I've always trained for each craft I've ever used - I have my day skipper practical and theory, got my powerboating level 1 & 2, my VHF etc. Through that, and experience of different craft, I understand the 'rules of the road' and how to go about my daily business on the water without pissing off other users.

You get annoying yachtties, cruiser skippers, RIB users and JetSki riders. The only thing they have in common is that as individuals they are all self-centred, selfish idiots. It's not the mode of transport that's the issue, it's the person using them.

Going out to sea around Poole on a JetSki, far away from the crowd is a wonderful way to spend a few hours. But then again, it can be great on lots of other water craft!

If you play nice and have consideration we can all share the sea!

Peace brothers

[Turquoise]

JuniorD said:

There should be a nobel prize for the one who invents the silent jetski.

I hate the infernal things. As a mode of A to B transport they make some degree of sense, but I simply can't understand the mentality of someone who could spend 5 mins or more just buzzing around and around for the "fun" of it.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I keep 2 jet skis at my villa in Portugal. Exploring the coast with friends, searching caves, grottos and finding secluded beaches inaccessible from the land, is a great way to spend the day.

If your mentality point was valid, why do people do lap after lap of the same circuit on a track day, when according to you such things cease to be fun after 5 minutes...

[Hard-Drive]

Turquoise said:

You don't know what you're talking about.

I keep 2 jet skis at my villa in Portugal. Exploring the coast with friends, searching caves, grottos and finding secluded beaches inaccessible from the land, is a great way to spend the day.

If your mentality point was valid, why do people do lap after lap of the same circuit on a track day, when according to you such things cease to be fun after 5 minutes...

Huge difference IMHO. If you had a fast car, a mountain bike, a sports motor bike and a massive car park, you'd get bored after 10 minutes. On a twisty B road, circuit, or piece of singletrack, you'd have fun for years. I had a go on a jetski once and was soon bored. "Oooo...I'll go this way. Now that way. Now I'll go round in circles. Big circles. Small circles. And now this way...oh sod this, I think I'll just go for a pint..."

[berlintaxi]

Hard-Drive said:

Turquoise said:

You don't know what you're talking about.

I keep 2 jet skis at my villa in Portugal. Exploring the coast with friends, searching caves, grottos and finding secluded beaches inaccessible from the land, is a great way to spend the day.

If your mentality point was valid, why do people do lap after lap of the same circuit on a track day, when according to you such things cease to be fun after 5 minutes...

Huge difference IMHO. If you had a fast car, a mountain bike, a sports motor bike and a massive car park, you'd get bored after 10 minutes. On a twisty B road, circuit, or piece of singletrack, you'd have fun for years. I had a go on a jetski once and was soon bored. "Oooo...I'll go this way. Now that way. Now I'll go round in circles. Big circles. Small circles. And now this way...oh sod this, I think I'll just go for a pint..."

Then you didn't use the jetski properly, Turquoise's analogy is spot on, the idiots/posers you see going round in circles are just the same as knobs in fast cars revving the hell out of it at traffic lights, a jetski gives to cheap access to the a whole coastline not only 100m off a beach, however as ever on here people like to try and appear better than others by sneering at others peoples interests..

[Turquoise]

Hard-Drive said:

Turquoise said:

You don't know what you're talking about.

I keep 2 jet skis at my villa in Portugal. Exploring the coast with friends, searching caves, grottos and finding secluded beaches inaccessible from the land, is a great way to spend the day.

If your mentality point was valid, why do people do lap after lap of the same circuit on a track day, when according to you such things cease to be fun after 5 minutes...

Huge difference IMHO. If you had a fast car, a mountain bike, a sports motor bike and a massive car park, you'd get bored after 10 minutes. On a twisty B road, circuit, or piece of singletrack, you'd have fun for years. I had a go on a jetski once and was soon bored. "Oooo...I'll go this way. Now that way. Now I'll go round in circles. Big circles. Small circles. And now this way...oh sod this, I think I'll just go for a pint..."

That doesn't make any sense (and who is talking about car parks anyway?)

On a circuit you are constrained by the path of the tarmac. There's nowhere else to go. Yet apparently you'd have years of fun.

On a jet ski on the coast, the world is your oyster, you can explore and go wherever you want, yet you'd be bored.

And the best bit of your post?

"I went on a jet ski ONCE"

Enough said.

[rufmeister]

Wow.

We had a Yamaha FXHO which has the R1 engine in, for about a year, cost about £4000, sold for similar.

On the sea, great fun, on a lake boring, however, the times we went without friends that had a ski, it was boring after 10 minutes, wherever we went.

I'd echo the sentiment of not spending quite so much, as £5-6k gets you a lot of ski.

Try looking on pwcforums.co.uk for a warmer response.

[JuniorD]

Turquoise said:

JuniorD said:

There should be a nobel prize for the one who invents the silent jetski.

I hate the infernal things. As a mode of A to B transport they make some degree of sense, but I simply can't understand the mentality of someone who could spend 5 mins or more just buzzing around and around for the "fun" of it.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I keep 2 jet skis at my villa in Portugal. Exploring the coast with friends, searching caves, grottos and finding secluded beaches inaccessible from the land, is a great way to spend the day.

If your mentality point was valid, why do people do lap after lap of the same circuit on a track day, when according to you such things cease to be fun after 5 minutes...

Exploring the coast etc I can understand completely. What bugs me are moron who fk around on lakes or just offshore throttling the frig out of things and mostly disturbing the peace. Strangely I have no problems with motorboats, it's just the incessant noise of jetskis that want's me to have access to an RPG.

As for trackdays, not my cup of tea, but at least they are nosie restricted and not a total free for all. And again, the noise of cars is not as offensive as jetskis hopping about the waves.

[Turquoise]

JuniorD said:

Turquoise said:

JuniorD said:

There should be a nobel prize for the one who invents the silent jetski.

I hate the infernal things. As a mode of A to B transport they make some degree of sense, but I simply can't understand the mentality of someone who could spend 5 mins or more just buzzing around and around for the "fun" of it.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I keep 2 jet skis at my villa in Portugal. Exploring the coast with friends, searching caves, grottos and finding secluded beaches inaccessible from the land, is a great way to spend the day.

If your mentality point was valid, why do people do lap after lap of the same circuit on a track day, when according to you such things cease to be fun after 5 minutes...

Exploring the coast etc I can understand completely. What bugs me are moron who fk around on lakes or just offshore throttling the frig out of things and mostly disturbing the peace. Strangely I have no problems with motorboats, it's just the incessant noise of jetskis that want's me to have access to an RPG.

As for trackdays, not my cup of tea, but at least they are nosie restricted and not a total free for all. And again, the noise of cars is not as offensive as jetskis hopping about the waves.

Fair enough. I honestly think if you spent a day with me using them like I do, your opinion would soften. But the geography and climate would be a factor in that of course. The Algarve coast has rather more appeal than a flooded gravel pit in the UK.

[R8Steve]

JuniorD said:

Strangely I have no problems with motorboats, it's just the incessant noise of jetskis that want's me to have access to an RPG.

What about a seadoo challenger speedboat, would that still bug you, being a motorboat and all?