Sunseeker TV programme - BBC2

[droopsnoot]

paul0843 said:

Nothing wrong with marble.
Itn fact I thought it was quite nice and I know it's expensive .
The buyer might not like it but that's his personal opinion.
He doesn't have to like it.Its like asking someone what their favourite colour is.
We won't all like the same thing.

Yes, I was just writing what I thought of it. That's the trouble with natural stuff, it's a bit hard to control how any graining (not sure of the proper term for marble marks) appears, and if it's all too perfect it would look fake.

Customer did seem to be a bit "particular", but then maybe it was his first yacht in that price range and wanted it spot on, maybe his wife and/or family kept sticking their oars in, who knows? I didn't "get" that water wall, though I've not been unfortunate enough to experience the utter tedium of having continual good weather every time I look out of the windows (probably not called windows) of my yacht as I sit moored just off the French Riviera. And I'd be a bit concerned at how long it would go before it started leaking into the (no doubt) expensive floor coverings. Florida chap was spot on - "so it's just a piece of pipe with some holes in it?".

I took the comments about there being a lot of couples in the captain / chef or captain / chief steward positions the other way around - that the captain would hire the girlfriend as a known pair of hands (stop sniggering) rather than that the girlfriend would stick with the captain just to get a job.

[berlintaxi]

Ari said:

Ben Jk said:

Probably not worded very well.

The Captain makes all the recruitment decisions - who to hire and who to fire. She's making sure she doesn't get let go. I may be wrong but.....

Yes you may be.

If you really think that the world is full of beautiful women shagging their bosses to keep their jobs then you probably need to start giving the 24 hour pornhub sessions a swerve...

Come on now Ari, don't ruin his fantasy with a little thing like reality.

[SpeckledJim]

droopsnoot said:

paul0843 said:

Nothing wrong with marble.
Itn fact I thought it was quite nice and I know it's expensive .
The buyer might not like it but that's his personal opinion.
He doesn't have to like it.Its like asking someone what their favourite colour is.
We won't all like the same thing.

Yes, I was just writing what I thought of it. That's the trouble with natural stuff, it's a bit hard to control how any graining (not sure of the proper term for marble marks) appears, and if it's all too perfect it would look fake.

Customer did seem to be a bit "particular", but then maybe it was his first yacht in that price range and wanted it spot on, maybe his wife and/or family kept sticking their oars in, who knows? I didn't "get" that water wall, though I've not been unfortunate enough to experience the utter tedium of having continual good weather every time I look out of the windows (probably not called windows) of my yacht as I sit moored just off the French Riviera. And I'd be a bit concerned at how long it would go before it started leaking into the (no doubt) expensive floor coverings. Florida chap was spot on - "so it's just a piece of pipe with some holes in it?".

I took the comments about there being a lot of couples in the captain / chef or captain / chief steward positions the other way around - that the captain would hire the girlfriend as a known pair of hands (stop sniggering) rather than that the girlfriend would stick with the captain just to get a job.

I saw it a third way. Captain hires a bunch of fitties. (Naturally).

They all work very hard, get very little time to themselves, and don't meet many people they don't work for (clients) or work for (Skipper).

So, Stockholm Syndrome does its thing, and they go for the Captain, in the absence of many other options.

[blueg33]

Chef had nice teeth.

[Ari]

Simpo Two said:

It was a silly detail that took up too much airtime. First the buyer didn't want it but they fitted it anyway, then (not surprisingly) the buyer wanted it removed which Sunseeker said would cost them £100K, then they agreed to go 50/50 on the cost, then the owner decided to keep it. There's a few dots that don't join up.

Just goes to show that if you give the customer what they ask for, you'll have a much easier life.

Only seeing a highly edited one side of the conversation we'll never know. My guess is that they agreed the marble with him, but he didn't like the grain in the actual bit that went in.

[happygoron]

SpeckledJim said:

droopsnoot said:

I took the comments about there being a lot of couples in the captain / chef or captain / chief steward positions the other way around - that the captain would hire the girlfriend as a known pair of hands (stop sniggering) rather than that the girlfriend would stick with the captain just to get a job.

I saw it a third way. Captain hires a bunch of fitties. (Naturally).

They all work very hard, get very little time to themselves, and don't meet many people they don't work for (clients) or work for (Skipper).

So, Stockholm Syndrome does its thing, and they go for the Captain, in the absence of many other options.

It's also that couples can be quite popular to hire, especially on smaller yachts as they take up one less berth.

[Yertis]

I wanted to find out how they resolved the query over that nice bit of detailing in the decking.

[droopsnoot]

Yertis said:

I wanted to find out how they resolved the query over that nice bit of detailing in the decking.

I'd have thought that they'd explain in detail why they did it, which was quite reasonable, and turn it into a feature.

[WCZ]

as a boat noob with a future dream, I really enjoyed the documentary

one thing that did make me wonder was how far these boats actually go from being parked up / 1-2 miles away from their parking spots in the south of france?

I was having a look on the sunseeker website and some of these boats have a range of 4,000 nautical miles - if I had one I'd enjoy traveling around the world on it (presumably they can handle rough sea conditions etc ?)

[Boatbuoy]

WCZ said:

as a boat noob with a future dream, I really enjoyed the documentary

one thing that did make me wonder was how far these boats actually go from being parked up / 1-2 miles away from their parking spots in the south of france?

I was having a look on the sunseeker website and some of these boats have a range of 4,000 nautical miles - if I had one I'd enjoy traveling around the world on it (presumably they can handle rough sea conditions etc ?)

Boats are designed to a number of different catagories which detrmin the sorts of conditions they are likely to encounter. Most owners of a 60' motor boat will only ever use them in relativly calm conditions, therefore why go to the expense of designing and building a vessel to handle the North Atlantic? The likes of Sunseeker build to suit conditions that you would reasobaly expect to find up to about 100 miles offshore.

If you had one, why would you waste months (literally) of your time and £100,000's of diesel chugging between the places that you really want to be? Easier and cheaper to have it shipped, a la: http://sevenstar-yacht-transport.com/?gclid=CIDOxd...

[WCZ]

Boatbuoy said:

Boats are designed to a number of different catagories which detrmin the sorts of conditions they are likely to encounter. Most owners of a 60' motor boat will only ever use them in relativly calm conditions, therefore why go to the expense of designing and building a vessel to handle the North Atlantic? The likes of Sunseeker build to suit conditions that you would reasobaly expect to find up to about 100 miles offshore.

If you had one, why would you waste months (literally) of your time and £100,000's of diesel chugging between the places that you really want to be? Easier and cheaper to have it shipped, a la: http://sevenstar-yacht-transport.com/?gclid=CIDOxd...

ahh, thanks.

I didn't even realize yacht transport existed, I thought part of the fun was to travel the world in these things.

hmm, somewhere like the south pacific looks like a good place for one ? hopping around all the islands!

[anonymous-user]

My ex- girlfriend is a sales executive for Sunseeker Charters, had a great time going out on numerous boats and spent a lovely week touring the Dalmation coast with her with our own Captain (friend of hers), we only had to pay for the fuel.

Damn, thinking about it, I should have worked harder at that relationship!

[prand]

Didn't Jordan Belfort (Wolf of Wall St bloke) manage to have his 50m yacht sink in a storm off Italy?

I thought it was a bit of cinematic license at the time, but it surprised me film that boats of this size and performance are not suited to bad weather in the open ocean (though of course I'm sure some are).

[Yertis]

WCZ said:

I thought part of the fun was to travel the world in these things.

That's proper sailing. It's like the differnce between a Caterham 7 and chauffeur-driven Mercedes.

[WCZ]

Yertis said:

That's proper sailing. It's like the differnce between a Caterham 7 and chauffeur-driven Mercedes.

but is it still classed as sailing? I thought sailing had to utilize the wind by definition?

I'd like to travel around on a boat but without all the faff!

[belleair302]

Very few of these boats i.e. above 150ft are really used to distance. Most are on charter because of the costs associated with fuel and operating costs, and the owners are often too busy to enjoy them. Weekly running bills in port can be in the tens of thousands if staff ad docking fees are included. As mentioned above the yachts in the Med and in Montenegro etc will remain until late Oct then are transported often to Ft Lauderdale and then spend the winters in the Caribbean, again on charter. Paul Allen of Microsoft fame is a major user of his boats and does sail them globally. Alas many owners only go about 1000 miles per annum and the charter people don't go far either.

[Ari]

happygoron said:

SpeckledJim said:

droopsnoot said:

I took the comments about there being a lot of couples in the captain / chef or captain / chief steward positions the other way around - that the captain would hire the girlfriend as a known pair of hands (stop sniggering) rather than that the girlfriend would stick with the captain just to get a job.

I saw it a third way. Captain hires a bunch of fitties. (Naturally).

They all work very hard, get very little time to themselves, and don't meet many people they don't work for (clients) or work for (Skipper).

So, Stockholm Syndrome does its thing, and they go for the Captain, in the absence of many other options.

It's also that couples can be quite popular to hire, especially on smaller yachts as they take up one less berth.

It seems they're all desperate to believe that this woman is 'putting out' to get/keep her job.

Far too much pornhub I suspect.

[droopsnoot]

Boatbuoy said:

If you had one, why would you waste months (literally) of your time and £100,000's of diesel chugging between the places that you really want to be? Easier and cheaper to have it shipped, a la: http://sevenstar-yacht-transport.com/?gclid=CIDOxd...

There was quite an interesting programme on a couple of years ago showing one of these yacht-moving ships in action, reminded me of a large version of a WW2 landing craft - open the front, sail the various cargo in, brace it all, then drain the water out. I think it was on "Monster Moves" or something similar. Up to that point, I hadn't considered the fact that a reasonably-sized yacht might be a pain to move from Monaco to Florida for the winter, what with there being no filling stations halfway across.

happygoron said:

It's also that couples can be quite popular to hire, especially on smaller yachts as they take up one less berth.

True, though they did show that the yacht in question had two small bunks, one above the other, that the couple used.

[Yertis]

WCZ said:

Yertis said:

That's proper sailing. It's like the differnce between a Caterham 7 and chauffeur-driven Mercedes.

but is it still classed as sailing? I thought sailing had to utilize the wind by definition?

I'd like to travel around on a boat but without all the faff!

Well yes I agree. I suppose you'd call it motoring, although in my own experience I've only motored when there's no wind, or to get up and down Wareham channel.

I quite enjoy boats but they're a huge faff as you rightly say, unless you actually live next to the water.

[Talksteer]

Roo said:

I thought it was an enjoyable programme.

Can't believe the sales staff get 1% of the sale price as commission.

They plan to sell £40million at the boat show, which would be 400k commission split between 30-40 sales people by the looks of it so not a mental level of commission.