Sunseeker TV programme - BBC2

[belleair302]

And the taxman takes 40 + percent of it....I would rather work on the maintenance side as these boots don't have some major technological issues within a year or two.

[Silent1]

Yertis said:

WCZ said:

I thought part of the fun was to travel the world in these things.

That's proper sailing. It's like the differnce between a Caterham 7 and chauffeur-driven Mercedes.

This chap is doing it properly M/V Dirona but I think being fairly important at Amazon helps him do it!

[Ari]

Talksteer said:

Roo said:

I thought it was an enjoyable programme.

Can't believe the sales staff get 1% of the sale price as commission.

They plan to sell £40million at the boat show, which would be 400k commission split between 30-40 sales people by the looks of it so not a mental level of commission.

That would assume that 30-40 sales people ALL make sales. Given the cost of these boats, 40 million could easily be made up of just five sales (I suspect the bulk of it could be made up by the sale of one in fact - guessing the 151 can't be that far off £40M).

That said, it does seem extremely unlikely to me that the salesman that signs a customer up for the sale of a 151 earns circa £400,000 for that one deal in reality. My guess would be that even if it is theoretically true, the full 1% commission figure assumes the sale at full list price, which never ever happens.

[WCZ]

Silent1 said:

This chap is doing it properly M/V Dirona but I think being fairly important at Amazon helps him do it!

love it

[Davey S2]

Nice but I'd rather spend a few Mil on an Oyster or Discovery that you really could sail around the world.

Some really good Youtube channels on this sort of stuff.

Have a look for SV Delos and Sailing La Vagabond.

[Davey S2]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Davey S2 said:

Nice but I'd rather spend a few Mil on an Oyster or Discovery that you really could sail around the world.

Some really good Youtube channels on this sort of stuff.

Have a look for SV Delos and Sailing La Vagabond.

I was kinda thinking similar - £20m buys you one hell of a nice rag and stick boat.

I for one would take a Disco 67 all day long instead of those....

No need to spend anywhere near that amount. Oyster 675 or the Disco is about $3.5M. You also don't need to stick £20K's worth of fuel into them every few weeks.

[Ari]

My guess is that at this level, owners probably don't have to choose between. If they want a nice sailing boat they'll probably just buy one of those as well.

[paul0843]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

They'd require a modicum of taste however - surprisingly absent in the uber wealthy.
Always amazes me....

are you saying this in a professional capacity or is it just your opinion ?
Paul

[blueg33]

Davey S2 said:

No need to spend anywhere near that amount. Oyster 675 or the Disco is about $3.5M. You also don't need to stick £20K's worth of fuel into them every few weeks.

Oyster 82 for me. I rather like Bare Necessities, having been alongside her a few times and on board once.

[AstonZagato]

blueg33 said:

Davey S2 said:

No need to spend anywhere near that amount. Oyster 675 or the Disco is about $3.5M. You also don't need to stick £20K's worth of fuel into them every few weeks.

Oyster 82 for me. I rather like Bare Necessities, having been alongside her a few times and on board once.

I just looked at an Oyster 82 online. Lovely thing! However, £3.3mio and looks (to me) like a floating caravan below decks. Ahm oot.

Edited by AstonZagato on Thursday 28th April 11:24

[blueg33]

AstonZagato said:

blueg33 said:

Davey S2 said:

No need to spend anywhere near that amount. Oyster 675 or the Disco is about $3.5M. You also don't need to stick £20K's worth of fuel into them every few weeks.

Oyster 82 for me. I rather like Bare Necessities, having been alongside her a few times and on board once.

I just looked at an Oyster 82 online. Lovely thing! However, £3.3mio and looks (to me) like a floating caravan below decks. Ahm oot.

Edited by AstonZagato on Thursday 28th April 11:24

Much better in person. The mast on Bare Necessities matched my reflex purple Tuscan.

[emicen]

It was a lot more tastefully done than the Ch4 programme fairly recently looking at billionaires and their yachts, in the main the people buying didn't come across as utter tools in this one.

The more stumpy salesman from Sunseeker London would be far more likely to get a fat lip than a sale.

The issue with the marble on the sinks I actually agreed with, the marble in the shower I really don't see.

prand said:

Didn't Jordan Belfort (Wolf of Wall St bloke) manage to have his 50m yacht sink in a storm off Italy?

I thought it was a bit of cinematic license at the time, but it surprised me film that boats of this size and performance are not suited to bad weather in the open ocean (though of course I'm sure some are).

It did sink but from what I've read, not exactly as portrayed in the movie.

It was a freak wave, but not on the scale they showed:
http://aviationintel.com/wolf-wall-streets-yacht-s...

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

WCZ said:

I thought part of the fun was to travel the world in these things.

I think sadly the bulk of those with these types of toys, think nothing further from the above !

Marina A to Marina B, via restuarant C for lunch.

and back

I think its very size dependent, 60ft boats probably see a lot more cruising about than 100ft.

[Pinger23]

http://www.sunseekercharters.com/sunseeker-yachts/...

Interesting programme and I did wonder why Sunseeker had stopped making ‘smaller’ boats, and the original owner created a range of boats to get started. I wonder where all the old ones will goto in the future?

[emicen]

Pinger23 said:

http://www.sunseekercharters.com/sunseeker-yachts/...

Interesting programme and I did wonder why Sunseeker had stopped making ‘smaller’ boats, and the original owner created a range of boats to get started. I wonder where all the old ones will goto in the future?

Was quite sad to realise they no longer make an open sports boat as far as I can see. The 50ft San Remo and 57ft Predator being their smallest offering ms, and they have cockpits.

Having said that, I fell in love with the, then new, Camargue 55 when there was an editorial advertisement type feature in an inflight magazine when I must have been all of 14. Looking at them now, they are really very dated looking, even the last of them from the early 2000s.

[Simpo Two]

Pinger23 said:

I wonder where all the old ones will goto in the future?

Sunseeker Daycab from 1976 - not unlike a Shetland!

[belleair302]

I believe that the US economy hit hard between 07-12 where all boat sales suffered and this hurt Europe. Then Russia had issues and the 35-50 t market has been taken by either offshore powerboats or the likes of Formula and Chris Craft. Bigger boats mean better margins and fewer units per year and with a Chinese owner you can see where the future lies. Alas not on good weekend boats or performance. Look to Italy and the US for these now, especially if 45 mph or more is your goal.