BBC reporting a drone has hit an airliner at Heathrow

BBC reporting a drone has hit an airliner at Heathrow

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surveyor

17,825 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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scubadude said:
This really irritates me (for several reasons)

Firstly- They are Not friggin DRONES! They are remote controlled multirotors "AKA Toys" a Drones is a remotely operated aircraft used for target practice by the military.

Secondly- the Dick-wads flying these things into planes and crowds are going to get them regulated or banned and ruin the fun that millions of people world-wide enjoy safely with these remote control toys.


Any time anyone invents something fun, some jerk has to misuse/abuse it and spoil the thing for everyone else- selfish mouth breathing knuckle dragging Neanderthal scum.
Modern UAV's are expensive. I don't think you can call them toys.

And there are risks as to their use, whether hitting planes or objects on the ground.

I quite like the FAA scheme where the user passes an online test, and then registers the UAV. It's not ridiculously expensive, but makes sure the users know the rules and the craft can be linked to the user.

It's then much easier to prosecute the idiots.

While the CAA don't want to get involved with the hobby users, the time will come when they have no choice.

MartG

20,679 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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surveyor said:
scubadude said:
This really irritates me (for several reasons)

Firstly- They are Not friggin DRONES! They are remote controlled multirotors "AKA Toys" a Drones is a remotely operated aircraft used for target practice by the military.

Secondly- the Dick-wads flying these things into planes and crowds are going to get them regulated or banned and ruin the fun that millions of people world-wide enjoy safely with these remote control toys.


Any time anyone invents something fun, some jerk has to misuse/abuse it and spoil the thing for everyone else- selfish mouth breathing knuckle dragging Neanderthal scum.
Modern UAV's are expensive. I don't think you can call them toys.

And there are risks as to their use, whether hitting planes or objects on the ground.

I quite like the FAA scheme where the user passes an online test, and then registers the UAV. It's not ridiculously expensive, but makes sure the users know the rules and the craft can be linked to the user.

It's then much easier to prosecute the idiots.

While the CAA don't want to get involved with the hobby users, the time will come when they have no choice.
Surely they fall into the same classification as radio controlled model aircraft, and should be subject to the same rules and regulations. No need for new legislation, just application of existing laws.

surveyor

17,825 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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MartG said:
Surely they fall into the same classification as radio controlled model aircraft, and should be subject to the same rules and regulations. No need for new legislation, just application of existing laws.
But these No longer need specialist knowledge to build, and some are flying them with no idea of what the rules are.

Needs a way to encourage users to know the rules, and give realistic enforcement on those who don't.

Ps

Everyone shlould download CAS app Drone Aware

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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djc206 said:
El stovey said:
I took a dove into an engine (RR RB211) years ago. It destroyed it and caused plenty of damage. I'm sure a drone with batteries and camera would be at least as bad.

To all the experts guessing it was a balloon, I'm sure I could tell the difference between a balloon and a drone if it' was in my way,




Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 10th December 19:30
In fairness they reckon the "drone strike" that happened back in April was actually a plastic bag!

I was working the day of the latest reported incident, caused quite a lot of concern in the TMA.
Who thinks it was a plastic bag?

peter tdci

1,770 posts

150 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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surveyor said:
DJI drones are electronically limited to 400ft in the UK, which is the maximum height that they should be flown (and 500ft laterally).
Isn't that just the default limit which can then be extended to up to 500m/1640ft?

surveyor

17,825 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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peter tdci said:
Isn't that just the default limit which can then be extended to up to 500m/1640ft?
I think it depend either on where you are or where the drone was bought.

I'll fine changing the setting a go next time I'm out

djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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El stovey said:
Who thinks it was a plastic bag?
That's what has been reported regarding the April incident at Richmond Park. I believe it was the transport secretary who announced it, I have no idea who advised him.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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djc206 said:
El stovey said:
Who thinks it was a plastic bag?
That's what has been reported regarding the April incident at Richmond Park. I believe it was the transport secretary who announced it, I have no idea who advised him.
I'm afraid he's very much talking out of his arse.

Pilots think they saw a drone, he arbitrarily announced it was probably a bag. He doesn't have a clue what they saw. The only evidence is what the pilots saw. He wasn't there.

djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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El stovey said:
I'm afraid he's very much talking out of his arse.

Pilots think they saw a drone, he arbitrarily announced it was probably a bag. He doesn't have a clue what they saw. The only evidence is what the pilots saw. He wasn't there.
I doubt he came up with it. I read there was no sign of any damage which makes a drone unlikely doesn't it.