Cool things seen on FlightRadar
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fullbeem said:
One of those KC2 Voyagers over the North Sea at present "just waiting for a mate"
One of these goes directly over our house at pretty much the same time every Sunday morning, heading back to Brize (I'm in Wiltshire), never figured out where it's coming from though as the trace disappears. Fairly noisy things when they get down low.andym1603 said:
fullbeem said:
One of those KC2 Voyagers over the North Sea at present "just waiting for a mate"
He is still doing circuits. Has he been stood up?Ginetta G15 Girl said:
It's alled a 'Tanker Towline'. Unlike a 'Trail' (where you are tanking the fighters from A to B) on a Towline the tanker will sit in the race track whilst tanking. You aren't seeing any fast jets because they aren't sqwawking on Mode S.
Ah, thanks for the explanation. Do they normally stay on track for 3+ hours?Ginetta G15 Girl said:
andym1603 said:
fullbeem said:
One of those KC2 Voyagers over the North Sea at present "just waiting for a mate"
He is still doing circuits. Has he been stood up?
Multilateration from multiple receivers can pick them up though, See the USAF F15s V22s AH64s C130s etc.
andym1603 said:
Ah, thanks for the explanation. Do they normally stay on track for 3+ hours?
It rather depends upon the training task. I've sat on a Towline for 4 hrs before now (although that was fairly rare). AIUI from the guys and girls at Brize, the average Tanker sortie is around 4hrs total.It can be fairly tedious being on a towline when you are not streaming the drogue. You also hope that the Loadie has ensured there's plenty of doughnuts on board!
Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Wednesday 30th November 18:34
El stovey said:
Multilateration from multiple receivers can pick them up though, See the USAF F15s V22s AH64s C130s etc.
As I understand it Flight Radar 24 relies primarily on an ADS-B transponnder linked to a GPS signal.Multilateration relies upon timing the Mode S transponder transmissions that are being recieved at several locations to work out a position.
So if you have no ADS-B transponder (ie most military a/c) and you are not sqwawking Mode S, then FR24 will not 'see' you.
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
El stovey said:
Multilateration from multiple receivers can pick them up though, See the USAF F15s V22s AH64s C130s etc.
As I understand it Flight Radar 24 relies primarily on an ADS-B transponnder linked to a GPS signal.Multilateration relies upon timing the Mode S transponder transmissions that are being recieved at several locations to work out a position.
So if you have no ADS-B transponder (ie most military a/c) and you are not sqwawking Mode S, then FR24 will not 'see' you.
Here's another grab with the multilateration showing the Eurofighter HAVOC052 leaving the refuelling area. To the south of it are a USAF F15 and an apache.
El stovey said:
Ian Lancs said:
El stovey said:
Interesting to note that apart from the voyager, all the other military aircraft above the UK at the moment are USAF. 
Apart from the two Typhoons over the Irish Sea 
El stovey said:
Interesting to note that apart from the voyager, all the other military aircraft above the UK at the moment are USAF.
Edited by Ian Lancs on Wednesday 30th November 20:56
El stovey said:
Anyone know what this Army Air Corps defender is doing orbiting over London for hours?
Lots of sneaky beaky stuff jammed into that,
I understand that at this time of year, whoever is sat in the front would probably be suffering from frostbite of the toes at the end of that little stint - the mates in the back would be warm and toasty though.Lots of sneaky beaky stuff jammed into that,
Edited by El stovey on Wednesday 30th November 21:11
Not impressed that either the ADS-B aggregator has ignored a request to block this data, or none of the responsible adults asked for it to be blocked - maybe it was just a training sortie, but if not then any Johnny Jihadist under the 'X marks the spot' might well assume his cover and comms have been compromised.
A few years ago I remember sitting out on the lawn at White Waltham and observing a light twin footling about way up in the TMA, apparently lost. Got ops to call the relevant authorities, who stated they knew all about it, so didn't think anything more of it. Turns out they were taking happy snaps of this lot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7190323.stm
El stovey said:
Deleted my post incase it helps jihadists or whatever,
Don't worry about J. Jihadist - after that amount of attention, he's probably wearing an orange gimp-suit somewhere conveniently deniable.No...what *you* need to be worried about is when the Big Green Wobbly Cross starts to manifest itself over *your* house...and your phone starts getting hot for no reason.....
eharding said:
El stovey said:
Deleted my post incase it helps jihadists or whatever,
Don't worry about J. Jihadist - after that amount of attention, he's probably wearing an orange gimp-suit somewhere conveniently deniable.No...what *you* need to be worried about is when the Big Green Wobbly Cross starts to manifest itself over *your* house...and your phone starts getting hot for no reason.....
Hang on the door bell just went, back in a mo. . .
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