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khaosai said:
Nanook said:
Emirates 777 taking off from Glasgow to Dubai yesterday.
I was leaving the office, he'd left Glasgow heading north, and was passing through 4000ft at 210 knots, with the landing gear still down.
Why would that be?
Hi,I was leaving the office, he'd left Glasgow heading north, and was passing through 4000ft at 210 knots, with the landing gear still down.
Why would that be?
It would most likely have been due to one of the following reasons:
Nose gear spin brake missing or inoperative.
Main gear brake retraction system inoperative.
One or two main brakes inoperative.
You leave the gear down for two minutes after take off to allow the wheels to spin down. You also add approximately 900kg of extra fuel for the inconvenience. It also gets rather noisy so best not to accelerate too much until they are retracted and remember to tell the crew, passengers and air traffic control.
I have never had any issue with excessively hot brakes after landing or prior to departure. The usual common sense approach applies to best manage braking and taxi. They say most brake wear occurs on taxi out when the carbon brakes are generally at their coolest.
onefor the knowledgable people on here,
we run a small airport transfer company and use Flight radar 24 for tracking flights inbound.
is there anything more accurate that we could be looking at as FR24 doesn't seem to be the most accurate and misses a lot of the stuff from like of the Scottish islands geurnesey etc
we run a small airport transfer company and use Flight radar 24 for tracking flights inbound.
is there anything more accurate that we could be looking at as FR24 doesn't seem to be the most accurate and misses a lot of the stuff from like of the Scottish islands geurnesey etc
Glasgowrob said:
onefor the knowledgable people on here,
we run a small airport transfer company and use Flight radar 24 for tracking flights inbound.
is there anything more accurate that we could be looking at as FR24 doesn't seem to be the most accurate and misses a lot of the stuff from like of the Scottish islands geurnesey etc
The airports own arrivals page is usually more accurate than fr24, obviously it doesn't show where the aircraft is though. Also put the flight number into google works well.we run a small airport transfer company and use Flight radar 24 for tracking flights inbound.
is there anything more accurate that we could be looking at as FR24 doesn't seem to be the most accurate and misses a lot of the stuff from like of the Scottish islands geurnesey etc
El stovey said:
Glasgowrob said:
onefor the knowledgable people on here,
we run a small airport transfer company and use Flight radar 24 for tracking flights inbound.
is there anything more accurate that we could be looking at as FR24 doesn't seem to be the most accurate and misses a lot of the stuff from like of the Scottish islands geurnesey etc
The airports own arrivals page is usually more accurate than fr24, we run a small airport transfer company and use Flight radar 24 for tracking flights inbound.
is there anything more accurate that we could be looking at as FR24 doesn't seem to be the most accurate and misses a lot of the stuff from like of the Scottish islands geurnesey etc
You've not used them lately, have you? They're currently dire, and getting worse...
Seems nothing can be done about it. I keep complaining and keep getting the same answer "oh, we can't do anything about it, the airport doesn't run the website traffic information..."
No, lassie, but it makes your airport look like a sack of fools.
5150 said:
I'd guess on the 777, you would probably need more than 900kg of fuel (if ferrying back to Dubai!). Along with the aircraft's speed being limited, you would also have an altitude restriction with gear extended, which greatly increases fuel burn. I very much doubt they would operate a Gear Down ferry flight with passengers either.
Hi,I don't think that was implied by the original posters question.
Your right, it's a totally impractical scenario on a long flight but the MEL does allow dispatch with the gear down for the duration of the flight and the operating manual has a procedure clearly defined for this particular scenario.
I am not aware of any policy which prohibits passengers from being carried on board with the gear remaining down for the duration of the flight.
mybrainhurts said:
You've not used them lately, have you? They're currently dire, and getting worse...
Seems nothing can be done about it. I keep complaining and keep getting the same answer "oh, we can't do anything about it, the airport doesn't run the website traffic information..."
No, lassie, but it makes your airport look like a sack of fools.
for example today i'm pickup up from KL1475
google says it lands in 37 minutes(on time) the airports status is blank FR24 is bereft of info and KLMs own page says the flight is running 48 minutes late (which means it should have been in the air 20 minutes ago).
absolute nightmare for us as we run an airport transfer company, now I don't know if my drivers going to be available for another job this afternoon or I need to reassign it
Glasgowrob said:
so true FR24 is something I use every day mainly because the airports own pages are ****
for example today i'm pickup up from KL1475
google says it lands in 37 minutes(on time) the airports status is blank FR24 is bereft of info and KLMs own page says the flight is running 48 minutes late (which means it should have been in the air 20 minutes ago).
absolute nightmare for us as we run an airport transfer company, now I don't know if my drivers going to be available for another job this afternoon or I need to reassign it
It's still on the ground at AMS on FR24. KLM's website is telling you it left the gate 48 minutes late, it's not going to be airborne immediately. Airlines are pessimistic with their scheduling so allowing for that and that it might fly a little faster it'll probably be in GLA about 40 mins latefor example today i'm pickup up from KL1475
google says it lands in 37 minutes(on time) the airports status is blank FR24 is bereft of info and KLMs own page says the flight is running 48 minutes late (which means it should have been in the air 20 minutes ago).
absolute nightmare for us as we run an airport transfer company, now I don't know if my drivers going to be available for another job this afternoon or I need to reassign it
well it gets better
GLA website says due 13:30
FR24 says due 12:55
klm say 13:43
surely there has to be an app or subscription service that can give decent accurate information? we see the same problems day in day out. with the flights from the smaller airport seemingly the worst affected
GLA website says due 13:30
FR24 says due 12:55
klm say 13:43
surely there has to be an app or subscription service that can give decent accurate information? we see the same problems day in day out. with the flights from the smaller airport seemingly the worst affected
Glasgowrob said:
well it gets better
GLA website says due 13:30
FR24 says due 12:55
klm say 13:43
surely there has to be an app or subscription service that can give decent accurate information? we see the same problems day in day out. with the flights from the smaller airport seemingly the worst affected
FR24 doesn't update until comfortably airborne a lot of the time it's now showing about 1340. I'd imagine the Glasgow airport website was working off the pushback time and will update now that an airborne time is available. By the time it's at the gate it will be probably be about 1345 so they're pretty reasonable estimatesGLA website says due 13:30
FR24 says due 12:55
klm say 13:43
surely there has to be an app or subscription service that can give decent accurate information? we see the same problems day in day out. with the flights from the smaller airport seemingly the worst affected
Trevatanus said:
pushthebutton said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Given the callsign, I would suggest calibration of the VOR beacon(s).
VOR = VHF Omni-Directional Range - it gives you a radial from the beacon.
Possibly calibrating the westerly ILSs at Heathrow and then being vectored around/in between arrivals?VOR = VHF Omni-Directional Range - it gives you a radial from the beacon.
Couldn't track it but A400M fairly low and banking pretty damn hard directly over my house in Wiltshire yesterday. Not unusual to see them here but usually a bit higher and flying in a straight line.
Ran out to take a look as it genuinely sounded like an airliner about to meet an unfortunate end with the Wiltshire countryside!
Ran out to take a look as it genuinely sounded like an airliner about to meet an unfortunate end with the Wiltshire countryside!
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