Harmony of the Seas
Discussion
MBBlat said:
And this is what it looks like from inside
https://www.schiffe-und-kreuzfahrten.de/royal-cari...
https://www.schiffe-und-kreuzfahrten.de/royal-cari...
It would look good on the 'what does your office look like thread' but I can't help but feel it's missing a big wheel and one of these full speed ahead lever things.
NJK44 said:
Does anyone know the actual intentions of this ship? It departed, got as far as parallel with Dartmoor, now heading back to Southampton, was it a test cruise? 
If it's similar to the trips I've been invited on for NCL you cruise up the channel and back overnight getting fed and drunk at their cost.It's a pretty good way to spend and evening
Edited by HoHoHo on Saturday 21st May 18:53
el stovey said:
It would look good on the 'what does your office look like thread' but I can't help but feel it's missing a big wheel and one of these full speed ahead lever things.
If you go onboard almost any ship thats not sail powered and expect to see this
you will be dissapointed, they mostly look like this
In some ships you won't even see a wheel at all - this is from Oasis of the Seas
MBBlat said:
If you go onboard almost any ship thats not sail powered and expect to see this
you will be dissapointed, they mostly look like this
In some ships you won't even see a wheel at all - this is from Oasis of the Seas
Pretty sure there's a wheel in OOTS, I watched a YouTube video onboard it earlier and it had one. you will be dissapointed, they mostly look like this
In some ships you won't even see a wheel at all - this is from Oasis of the Seas
MBBlat said:
you will be dissapointed, they mostly look like this
That at least looks like a ship. It's got a wheel and some levers. Looks like some warning signs and a monkey ornament from a brothel in Hong Kong. There's even a dodgy nautical carpet.MBBlat said:
In some ships you won't even see a wheel at all - this is from Oasis of the Seas
That looks rubbish. He must be embarrassed to be controlling the ship with that rubbish joystick. He's not even a proper sailor, he's only got half a beard too. 
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Whilst I DO understand a little of the science of flight, can explain the combustion cycle in a 4 stroke engine, and can grasp the concept of trimming and inherent stability in a ship design, it doesn't change the fact that the primitive part of the human brain struggles to compute the fact that it stays 'right way up' despite being far larger (volume wise, at least) above the waterline than it is below.I also understand the economics of building such large ships, but I'd far rather commit to a cruise with 1700 doddering pensioners on something like the Balmoral, which to my (untrained) eye looks like a 'ship', than embark with three times as many passengers upon the Leviathan that is Harmony of the Seas which looks, to be fair, like any number of Miami apartment blocks. Ultimately I don't think I'm it's target market, but the aesthetics of the ship and the 'Disney at Sea' theme park feel I get from the descriptions of facilities on board certainly don't help to sell it to me.
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We are and we trust your judgement obviously, as people still get one these thing routinely. I would happily get on without fear for my safety (though possibly sanity - but that's a tour operator not an engineering thing). However, it doesn't half look counter-intuitive to the layman!Vocal Minority said:
We are and we trust your judgement obviously, as people still get one these thing routinely. I would happily get on without fear for my safety (though possibly sanity - but that's a tour operator not an engineering thing). However, it doesn't half look counter-intuitive to the layman!
Wikipedia to the rescue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_stability#Calcu... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacentric_heightThe important equation with something like Harmony of the Seas is BM=I/V where I is second moment of area of the waterplane and V is the immersed volume. For a given length the beam is the biggest contributor to I, hence HotS looks and is very wide from the front.
So trust the mathamatics - it works, is well understood, and nowerdays can be rapidly calculated by computer.
I would be more worried about issues such as evacuation times and the ability to launch lifeboats at high heel angles rather than static stability.
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