ADS-B Receivers
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You don't really need the monitor and keyboard, you can run the pi 'headless' but that doesn't matter.
It would be worth seeing if you can install a desktop/browser to run the Dump1090 web client to have a live view of what's going on.
I'll dig some details out on that later/tonight.
It would be worth seeing if you can install a desktop/browser to run the Dump1090 web client to have a live view of what's going on.
I'll dig some details out on that later/tonight.
I have got the PiAware image downloaded and on the SD card.
Just got to assemble the Pi and then connect it to the antenna - once it arrives and is up on the roof.
My background is in IT (Databases/Analytics) so I like to see and understand what's going on (and you can never have enough gadgets
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ETA - I bought the key board & Monitor as I though you needed to issue commands whilst the device was not connected to another computer.
Just got to assemble the Pi and then connect it to the antenna - once it arrives and is up on the roof.
My background is in IT (Databases/Analytics) so I like to see and understand what's going on (and you can never have enough gadgets
)ETA - I bought the key board & Monitor as I though you needed to issue commands whilst the device was not connected to another computer.
Edited by NM62 on Wednesday 8th June 14:48
weeboot said:
Had a very quick look, seems entirely feasible.
I'll rebuild mine as a PiAware box tonight and see how I get on, if it works I'll give you all of the config steps, or host an image somewhere for you to download.
It may be worth creating a new thread and asking the mods to create a sticky thread as I found your links very informative.I'll rebuild mine as a PiAware box tonight and see how I get on, if it works I'll give you all of the config steps, or host an image somewhere for you to download.
Don't buy a Radarbox by Air Nav Systems. The owner is a crook, the customer support is crap and they charge you to receive data even though you provide yours for nowt. Oh, and did I say that the owner's a crook?
Don't take my word for it, do a search for this product on radarspotting.com and see for yourself.
Don't take my word for it, do a search for this product on radarspotting.com and see for yourself.
Edited by Ali Chappussy on Wednesday 8th June 14:59
NM62 said:
It may be worth creating a new thread and asking the mods to create a sticky thread as I found your links very informative.
It's a bit of a crossover in terms of content, Computers, gadgets & stuff, vs Boats, Planes & Trains. I'll see what I can do though.
NM62 said:
I have got the PiAware image downloaded and on the SD card.
Just got to assemble the Pi and then connect it to the antenna - once it arrives and is up on the roof.
My background is in IT (Databases/Analytics) so I like to see and understand what's going on (and you can never have enough gadgets)
ETA - I bought the key board & Monitor as I though you needed to issue commands whilst the device was not connected to another computer.
I deal in analytics et al too. Just got to assemble the Pi and then connect it to the antenna - once it arrives and is up on the roof.
My background is in IT (Databases/Analytics) so I like to see and understand what's going on (and you can never have enough gadgets
)ETA - I bought the key board & Monitor as I though you needed to issue commands whilst the device was not connected to another computer.
once the Pi is built, it only needs power, network and USB, everything can be done remotely via SSH (grab a copy of Putty, it is your friend).
It's nice as it means you can put it anywhere and not need to go directly to it to do anything.
Good stuff.
For reference, my setup above is using LXDE on the Raspberry PI with a browser set to full screen pointing at Dump1090 on the local machine.
Sounds complicated? It isn't.
LXDE is installed by default within the majority of Pi specific distros, a choice simply needs to be made within raspi-config over what the machine boots into, I've changed it to boot to LXDE rather than a command line.
Dump1090 runs on port 8080, so simply open a web browser in LXDE and browse to http://127.0.0.1:8080
Move the map to the desired position and hit F11.
Done.
For reference, my setup above is using LXDE on the Raspberry PI with a browser set to full screen pointing at Dump1090 on the local machine.
Sounds complicated? It isn't.
LXDE is installed by default within the majority of Pi specific distros, a choice simply needs to be made within raspi-config over what the machine boots into, I've changed it to boot to LXDE rather than a command line.
Dump1090 runs on port 8080, so simply open a web browser in LXDE and browse to http://127.0.0.1:8080
Move the map to the desired position and hit F11.
Done.
See what you've started WeeBoot - Welcome to the club StephenP - I can see a sub forum being formed.
I thought I was "monitored up" with 2 22 inch monitors but you've got a flat screen TV too ( or that's 1 big monitor at the back ).
My antenna is due Friday and I'm just waiting on the air band antenna.
- Welcome to the club StephenP - I can see a sub forum being formed.I thought I was "monitored up" with 2 22 inch monitors but you've got a flat screen TV too ( or that's 1 big monitor at the back ).
My antenna is due Friday and I'm just waiting on the air band antenna.
weeboot said:
el stovey said:
Have you thought about feeding 360radar or adsb exchange they both show unfiltered traffic using MLAT. Much more interesting than flight radar. Both websites have great forums offering loads of advice and the guys in charge actually give a toss.
Now feeding ADSBExchange and Flightaware as well. Can't find any details on 360radar, unless I'm being blind. Dashboard for FlightAware https://flightaware.com/adsb/stats/user/boostbysli...
Mildly moved my antenna this morning to about 3 foot further along the roof, every little helps right?
I need to knock down the Malverns and a chunk of Worcester, then I'm good to go!
And 2 other things, I loaded piaware image and adsb exchange feeder, and whilst I do see MLAT aircaft getting logged, I don't see the aircraft getting fed back to me and showing up on dump1090 although I see them in the table when they are near.
And my internet connection has been recently dropping out over night, probably whilst the ISP does work overnight, but then dump1090 stops feeding, although I can connect locally and see aircraft it is tracking?
So the status this morning:
pi@piaware:~ $ sudo piaware-status
dump1090 is not running.
faup1090 is not running.
piaware is running.
no program appears to be listening for connections on port 30005.
faup1090 is NOT connected to port 30005.
piaware is connected to FlightAware.
got 'couldn't open socket: connection refused'
maybe dump1090 is NOT producing data on port 30005.
smack said:
How do you generate that coverage map? I guess with Virtual Radar Server, but as the info on all this stuff is scattered around many different forums, I haven't found concise how to.
And 2 other things, I loaded piaware image and adsb exchange feeder, and whilst I do see MLAT aircaft getting logged, I don't see the aircraft getting fed back to me and showing up on dump1090 although I see them in the table when they are near.
And my internet connection has been recently dropping out over night, probably whilst the ISP does work overnight, but then dump1090 stops feeding, although I can connect locally and see aircraft it is tracking?
So the status this morning:
pi@piaware:~ $ sudo piaware-status
dump1090 is not running.
faup1090 is not running.
piaware is running.
no program appears to be listening for connections on port 30005.
faup1090 is NOT connected to port 30005.
piaware is connected to FlightAware.
got 'couldn't open socket: connection refused'
maybe dump1090 is NOT producing data on port 30005.
Yup, range is created with VRS, you need to ensure that the location is configured within the feed in VRS, then Receiver Range should become an option within the web interface. And 2 other things, I loaded piaware image and adsb exchange feeder, and whilst I do see MLAT aircaft getting logged, I don't see the aircraft getting fed back to me and showing up on dump1090 although I see them in the table when they are near.
And my internet connection has been recently dropping out over night, probably whilst the ISP does work overnight, but then dump1090 stops feeding, although I can connect locally and see aircraft it is tracking?
So the status this morning:
pi@piaware:~ $ sudo piaware-status
dump1090 is not running.
faup1090 is not running.
piaware is running.
no program appears to be listening for connections on port 30005.
faup1090 is NOT connected to port 30005.
piaware is connected to FlightAware.
got 'couldn't open socket: connection refused'
maybe dump1090 is NOT producing data on port 30005.
Not sure what's happening with your service failures. Presume they come back after a reboot?
Brief update.
Mistake 1 - Ordered wrong Pigtail to go between Filter and Receiver - Got MMX Male to SMA Female RG316 from China - Realised Mistake (£1.47)
Mistake 2 - Ordered RP SMA Male to SMA Female RG316 (£0.99) - Found out what RP meant - so finally 1 x SMA Male to SMA Female RG316 is on it's way from China (£3.41) - just got to wait a couple of weeks now
Mistake 3 - Ordered Wi Fi adapter ( £6.62 ) as I forgot about built in Wi Fi in Pi 3 - note to self - RTFM.
The Pi is built - even pimped it with a couple of heat sinks - Mini Screen and Keyboard work a treat - Set up Wi Fi - still getting to grips with config and Pi in general. Also got PuTTY installed and can SSH into the Pi.
Am going to start talking to local Aerial man about a mast and two Coax runs.
@WeeBoot you mentioned buying a waterproof box to house the Pi externally and thus shorten the length of RG58 cable (i.e. The cable run between the end of the aerial and the SMA Filter + receiver + Pi) - did you find anything suitable?
Alternatively Is it that much of an issue as I estimate the run will be about 3-4 metres of RG58 depending on the height of the mast.
Mistake 1 - Ordered wrong Pigtail to go between Filter and Receiver - Got MMX Male to SMA Female RG316 from China - Realised Mistake (£1.47)
Mistake 2 - Ordered RP SMA Male to SMA Female RG316 (£0.99) - Found out what RP meant - so finally 1 x SMA Male to SMA Female RG316 is on it's way from China (£3.41) - just got to wait a couple of weeks now
Mistake 3 - Ordered Wi Fi adapter ( £6.62 ) as I forgot about built in Wi Fi in Pi 3 - note to self - RTFM.
The Pi is built - even pimped it with a couple of heat sinks - Mini Screen and Keyboard work a treat - Set up Wi Fi - still getting to grips with config and Pi in general. Also got PuTTY installed and can SSH into the Pi.
Am going to start talking to local Aerial man about a mast and two Coax runs.
@WeeBoot you mentioned buying a waterproof box to house the Pi externally and thus shorten the length of RG58 cable (i.e. The cable run between the end of the aerial and the SMA Filter + receiver + Pi) - did you find anything suitable?
Alternatively Is it that much of an issue as I estimate the run will be about 3-4 metres of RG58 depending on the height of the mast.
NM62 said:
@WeeBoot you mentioned buying a waterproof box to house the Pi externally and thus shorten the length of RG58 cable (i.e. The cable run between the end of the aerial and the SMA Filter + receiver + Pi) - did you find anything suitable
For mine I picked up this last time I was in B&Q ....http://www.diy.com/departments/diall-grey-junction...
£7.48 and was convenient as I was already in the store looking for something else
The Pi 3, receiver and filter just fit inside although they do a bigger one if you want more space. I'll be running the power from an indoor socket, via some sort of USB extension (not sure which yet!)
FR24 has by far the best overall coverage but they filter out all the interesting stuff, ie. mil and bizzers. I don't know what's going on with their MLAT stuff but it's pretty much non-existent around Leeds where I am, yet I can fire up ADSBEx and all the tin and choppers show up just fine. I came to the conclusion that FRs coverage round here wasn't good so put in a request for a receiver to feed and they replied back that my area was saturated with receivers already. 
Certainly by clicking the planes that do show there are at least 4 receivers round here as I can tell from the F-EGNM1, F-EGNM2, F-EGNM3, F-EGNM4 radar codes so it seems that they're either filtering out all the MLAT stuff or their site is broken.
I think it's all going to be moot in a few years time anyway as it looks like ADS-B OUT will see encryption with cycled hex codes. This would make identifying the dots on your radar screen impossible unless you had access to live flight plan data. Basically what you get for USAF fighters and German mil with the use of tactical hex codes (impossible to ID) would become standard across the board. If's fair to say the sites that don't currently filter out biz and mil will be largely to blame when this happens.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-a...
Certainly by clicking the planes that do show there are at least 4 receivers round here as I can tell from the F-EGNM1, F-EGNM2, F-EGNM3, F-EGNM4 radar codes so it seems that they're either filtering out all the MLAT stuff or their site is broken.I think it's all going to be moot in a few years time anyway as it looks like ADS-B OUT will see encryption with cycled hex codes. This would make identifying the dots on your radar screen impossible unless you had access to live flight plan data. Basically what you get for USAF fighters and German mil with the use of tactical hex codes (impossible to ID) would become standard across the board. If's fair to say the sites that don't currently filter out biz and mil will be largely to blame when this happens.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-a...
NM62 said:
@WeeBoot you mentioned buying a waterproof box to house the Pi externally and thus shorten the length of RG58 cable (i.e. The cable run between the end of the aerial and the SMA Filter + receiver + Pi) - did you find anything suitable?
Alternatively Is it that much of an issue as I estimate the run will be about 3-4 metres of RG58 depending on the height of the mast.
I haven't done anything on that front as yet, but I did place an order with amazon this morning for a Flightaware pro-stick, 2 metres of RG58 and the Flightaware aerial. Alternatively Is it that much of an issue as I estimate the run will be about 3-4 metres of RG58 depending on the height of the mast.
Unfortunately, the roof below my study window (in a rented house) now needs to be replaced, so there's some building work coming up, perhaps I'll stick a pole up when the roofers are on site.
As far as the waterproof box is concerned, I was going to house just the stick&filter combo in there and keep the Pi indoors, therefore only running one USB extender out to the box, rather than having to worry about power/ethernet or a PoE injector type deal (I know there's a Pi Hat for PoE).
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