Interesting 737 engine failure

Interesting 737 engine failure

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Otispunkmeyer

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12,580 posts

155 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Passengers' Terror As US Plane Engine Falls Apart - Sky News

https://apple.news/A6G3MBuxBR36vvnSIrD9Iww

Not sure that link will work as it came off the apple news app. But looks like the front cowling just ripped off mid flight on a southwest 737! Doesn't look too catastrophic and it's unclear if the engine actually stopped working completely (thought the captain said they lost engine number 1... He may have shut it down though). But that would put the sts up me!

joshleb

1,544 posts

144 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Still in the sky and see your engine looking like this



I think I would need new pants!

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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That's incredible. That part has thousands of fasteners in it. I can't see how it can just fall apart. It has fallen apart btw. Parts of the nose cowl are still there.

djc206

12,341 posts

125 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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How on earth does that happen?

I best hide this news story from my girlfriend we've got 5 flights with them in a 3 week period.

Crafty_

13,279 posts

200 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Did the bits get ingested by the engine ? weird that a nacelle would fail, it can't have been secured properly, surely ?


davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Jamesgt said:
That's incredible. That part has thousands of fasteners in it. I can't see how it can just fall apart. It has fallen apart btw. Parts of the nose cowl are still there.
The engine looks to be more or less intact (bar ingesting bits of cowl) so it doesn't seem to be the engine that's caused it to fail.

Is there anything functional in that bit of the cowl?

IanH755

1,858 posts

120 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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There's a bit of bleed air for anti-icing/de-icing but nothing else. The aircraft also depressurised which is odd for a nacelle failure too so my guess would be the bleed air system was open to atmosphere after the failure and a valve was unable to be closed (usually in the wing root) to seal the leak but thats all very rough guesswork based on a few pics.

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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longshot

3,286 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Well that's a new one.

bearman68

4,652 posts

132 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Looks like it depressurised as debris from the cowling damaged the fuselage. The second link shows damage to the pressure hull.

OK so here's a guess. Somehow the air flow over the engine cowling was disrupted, setting up vortex vibration, causing the cowling to fail through fatigue. Completely without evidence, but interesting to speculate

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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bearman68 said:
Looks like it depressurised as debris from the cowling damaged the fuselage. The second link shows damage to the pressure hull.

OK so here's a guess. Somehow the air flow over the engine cowling was disrupted, setting up vortex vibration, causing the cowling to fail through fatigue. Completely without evidence, but interesting to speculate
Damage to the wing root as well by the looks of it. What a weird incident - glad nobody got hurt and I look forward to finding out what happened.

Otispunkmeyer

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12,580 posts

155 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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J4CKO said:
Well, it's gouged a hole in the outer skin and has struck the main wing where it blends to the body and struck tail plane on its way. Probably very strong parts of the structure but just imagine if it took the tail wing off or damaged the elevators (aielerons?).

longshot

3,286 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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I wonder if the structure was fatigued on the port side.

Seems odd that the fuselage was impacted where it is. For debris to make it that far across would take some serious energy.
Also, note the position of the tube.

I wonder if the structure let go on the port side of the engine in some way and the cowl 'hinged' over to the starboard side.

Goodness knows hot it did that though.

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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bearman68 said:
OK so here's a guess. Somehow the air flow over the engine cowling was disrupted, setting up vortex vibration, causing the cowling to fail through fatigue. Completely without evidence, but interesting to speculate
That was my thought as well. Like a mk2 mondeo bumper...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Hasn't this happened on a 737 before?

Anyone flying with Ryanair anytime soon..? hehe

mybrainhurts

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255 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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karona

1,918 posts

186 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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longshot said:
I wonder if the structure was fatigued on the port side.

A passenger tweeted this just before take-off



That may actually not be true

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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karona said:
A passenger tweeted this just before take-off

Ah, so that's it...foreign norks in the intake.

2lefthands

400 posts

139 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Hasn't this happened on a 737 before?

Anyone flying with Ryanair anytime soon..? hehe
Prick! (Just packed bag before leaving for STN...)

Jamesgt

848 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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Bleed air exhaust blocked under the cowl?