Unintended Vomit Comet...

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Burrow01

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1,802 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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Bored RAF Pilot jammed the controls with his DSLR, must have been v scary for the passengers

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/bored-raf-pil...

droopsnoot

11,810 posts

241 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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I was reading about that in the paper today, surprised I hadn't heard about it before the trial.

ecsrobin

17,023 posts

164 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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Was in the papers about 2 years ago http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007690/Do...

Obviously back again due to the trial. There's is an official report available online.

I worked with a few people who were passengers on the aircraft and from their stories it was not a nice experience and that was from people who are used to throwing aircraft around whilst being shot at!

Burrow01

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1,802 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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Says the Co Pilot was stuck to the ceiling of the cockpit whilst they were trying to recover it, must have been a hell of a manoeuvre.

carreauchompeur

17,830 posts

203 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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Jeez, that's an almighty cockup!

hidetheelephants

23,772 posts

192 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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What a fking tool; presumably he's going to get dishonourable discharge? Negligence/stupidity is one thing, lying to cover it up is LMF.

bitchstewie

50,782 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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ecsrobin

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164 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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Brigand

2,544 posts

168 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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An ex-colleague of mine was on that flight, he said it was rather disconcerting to say the least.

bitchstewie

50,782 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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Didn't know FDRs recorded things like seats being moved.

carreauchompeur

17,830 posts

203 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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Feck, so it was only the aircraft's automated protection that actually saved it too... I suspect they *may* have been able to catch it, but you never know...

Markbarry1977

4,027 posts

102 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Apparently the co-pilot was quite badly hurt (probably career ending. Damaged back.

5150

685 posts

254 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Almost certainly discharged, but the major talking point is the fact he tried to cover it up.

That never goes down well in court and there's been talk of a custodial sentence.

Mansells Tash

5,713 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Guess he's going to spend the rest of his days flying rubber dog sts out of Hong Kong!

Markbarry1977

4,027 posts

102 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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RAF pilots don't hold a civie licence so the chances of him ever flying anything again must be quite slim.

ecsrobin

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164 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Markbarry1977 said:
RAF pilots don't hold a civie licence so the chances of him ever flying anything again must be quite slim.
I may be wrong but I think the voyager pilots might hold civil licences as the aircraft and pilots can be utilised for civil contracts?

lost in espace

6,136 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Markbarry1977 said:
Apparently the co-pilot was quite badly hurt (probably career ending. Damaged back.
He was so injured he takes part in the Invictus games.

Markbarry1977

4,027 posts

102 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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ecsrobin said:
Markbarry1977 said:
RAF pilots don't hold a civie licence so the chances of him ever flying anything again must be quite slim.
I may be wrong but I think the voyager pilots might hold civil licences as the aircraft and pilots can be utilised for civil contracts?
I used to work hercs until 2015, they fly under a military licence as all raf pilots do. RAF engineers at a certain rank get civie maintenance licences to sign of maintenance paperwork as these aircraft (well 2 currently) can be lent back to civie airlines so have to be maintained as if they were civie aircraft not the raf f700 system.

While the aircraft are/ can be lent out to the civilian world. I am pretty certain that when under civie use they are flown by civies with civilian licences.

This lending to civie airlines is a long term thing, it's not a flight by flight basis, its designed to give us a better war reserve. They have some quite advanced electronics and counter measures fitted when in military use (thing anti missile systems and comms system) which there not going to lend the plane out with all that stuff fitted. Much of it is also fitted to the herc fleet and from experience of havin to remove and refit it to hercs it's quite a time consuming job to do. Which there not going to do for a single lend to civie world.






Edited by Markbarry1977 on Saturday 25th February 08:21

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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That's not strictly true.

A fair number of RAF Pilots (especially the Multi Engined types) achieve Civilian licences whilst serving, even more so if they are flying an aircraft that has a Civilian Type Rating (eg HS125, BAe 146).

Having visited 10 Sqn about a year ago I was informed that the Voyager pilots convert onto type by recieving the Civilian training package which results in them attaining a Civilian licence.

Markbarry1977

4,027 posts

102 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I can't imagine the raf paying for that. I wonder if they do it at there own expense for when they come out using the ELC scheme.

I do know they do an abridged civie licence conversion type course not the full ppl/cpl/ATPL normal route civilians take when obtaining the civilian licences.

They might even do the full civilian type package but I doubt they are issued the licence.

Interesting if they do but it's not my understanding. I know a couple of raf engineers on voyager I will get them to find out for sure.

Edited by Markbarry1977 on Saturday 25th February 13:14