FlyBe undercart collapse on landing

FlyBe undercart collapse on landing

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Deptford Draylons

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djc206

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Thursday 23rd February 2017
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That is some appalling journalism even by DM standards. The Glasgow 'incident' wasn't even worth mentioning, it was just a technical issue that required the plane to return. The rest was just sensationalist claptrap.

Eric Mc

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W8PMC

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Friday 24th February 2017
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Wasn't it a FlyBe flight yesterday from Edinburgh to Schipol that had the left undercarriage collapse on landing causing the right propellor to make contact (several times) with the tarmac?

Saw a few mentions on FB yesterday & that certainly looked like a brown trouser incident.

djc206

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Friday 24th February 2017
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If. It's an important word that makes it completely irrelevant. Why not mention the Icelandair, Ryanair or Thomson aircraft that declared fuel pans/maydays because they might have been newsworthy "if" something had actually happened. Nothing did happen, it's not that uncommon an occurrence and it's not normally reported. I don't see why they'd write a muddled article flicking between an incident that could have been quite nasty and another that was a complete non event. I also doubt they had 10 crew members on board as stated by the DM, Dash 8's have two pilots and two cabin crew. Like I said abysmal sensationalist nonsense written by someone with no idea.

Glad no one was hurt at Amsterdam.

tontoro

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Friday 24th February 2017
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djc206 said:
If. It's an important word that makes it completely irrelevant. Why not mention the Icelandair, Ryanair or Thomson aircraft that declared fuel pans/maydays because they might have been newsworthy "if" something had actually happened. Nothing did happen, it's not that uncommon an occurrence and it's not normally reported. I don't see why they'd write a muddled article flicking between an incident that could have been quite nasty and another that was a complete non event. I also doubt they had 10 crew members on board as stated by the DM, Dash 8's have two pilots and two cabin crew. Like I said abysmal sensationalist nonsense written by someone with no idea.

Glad no one was hurt at Amsterdam.
What do you mean "if"?

The whole point of this thread is that something else did happen - the undercarriage collapsing on a different FlyBe plane.

djc206

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Friday 24th February 2017
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tontoro said:
What do you mean "if"?

The whole point of this thread is that something else did happen - the undercarriage collapsing on a different FlyBe plane.
You've misread what I've written. The DM wrote an article about the undercarriage collapse as posted in the OP and littered it with snippets about a plane that diverted back to Glasgow which is irrelevant, they were not the same plane, they did not suffer with similar issues. Why they mentioned it is beyond me since it would normally go unreported. It's irrelevant.

5150

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Friday 24th February 2017
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djc206 said:
You've misread what I've written. The DM wrote an article about the undercarriage collapse as posted in the OP and littered it with snippets about a plane that diverted back to Glasgow which is irrelevant, they were not the same plane, they did not suffer with similar issues. Why they mentioned it is beyond me since it would normally go unreported. It's irrelevant.
Relevant in the fact that it's the same airline. Newsworthy in that sense

djc206

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Friday 24th February 2017
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5150 said:
Relevant in the fact that it's the same airline. Newsworthy in that sense
I don't consider it relevant given that it was a minor technical fault I consider it coincidence and therefore irrelevant. I happen to know at least one other airline diverted an aircraft that day for technical reasons.

5150

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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djc206 said:
5150 said:
Relevant in the fact that it's the same airline. Newsworthy in that sense
I don't consider it relevant given that it was a minor technical fault I consider it coincidence and therefore irrelevant. I happen to know at least one other airline diverted an aircraft that day for technical reasons.
You may not find it relevant, but to a newspaper like the DM, it is. They like to st stir.....

Grant76

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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djc206 said:
I don't consider it relevant given that it was a minor technical fault I consider it coincidence and therefore irrelevant. I happen to know at least one other airline diverted an aircraft that day for technical reasons.
Would you find it relevant if you were onboard?

Steve_D

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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Grant76 said:
djc206 said:
I don't consider it relevant given that it was a minor technical fault I consider it coincidence and therefore irrelevant. I happen to know at least one other airline diverted an aircraft that day for technical reasons.
Would you find it relevant if you were onboard?
No
A technical fault/divert on aircraft A has no relevance to aircraft B breaking an undercarriage leg no matter which aircraft you happen to be on.

Steve

Ari

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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I was on one of these FlyBe planes a couple of years ago, flying out of Schiphol funnily enough.

Landing gear wouldn't retract so they had to turn back - then it wouldn't lock into place!

They eventually figured that it had locked in place but it was an extremely gentle (but fortunately uneventful) landing. So they do seem to have history with landing gear.

Oh yeah, then we got abandoned by FlyBe when all the reps went home and left us there.

Eventually got back to a completely different airport at 2am (I'd have rather stayed overnight but with no staff it was impossible to know whether I'd have got on a flight the next day to the correct airport).

I do my level best to avoid FlyMayBe these days - even driving to an airport much further away to fly with a proper airline.

Patch1875

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Saturday 25th February 2017
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The video of the Edinburgh plane looks like the right wheel touched down very hard.

djc206

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Sunday 26th February 2017
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Grant76 said:
Would you find it relevant if you were onboard?
No I would not

King Herald

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Sunday 26th February 2017
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They forgot to mention the pilot being a hero and selflessly saving the lives of all the passengers. (and his own)

Daily Mail standards are slipping! frown