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Hooli

21,222 posts

69 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
mrloudly said:
The Red Arrows were there, the Blades were there, the BBMF were there, they knew alright... A flypast en-route would have done their cause no harm at all.

I've had my doubts for a while...

ETA An appearance wasn't required, just an en-route fly over.
I wonder if anything had been requested?

DamienB

721 posts

88 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
As one of the organising committee of the Sywell show we were not aware that they were transitting so close to us on their way back from a private display at Dunsfold (as they kept the location of the display a secret - draw a line from Dunsfold to Doncaster on the map and it goes right over Sywell).

We had a packed schedule and it would have needed some very careful rearranging to fit a flypast in but I'm sure we'd have welcomed it if they'd contacted us to offer one (and had the price been acceptable of course). We would have been unable to advertise it in advance due to previous disappointments however, so it wouldn't have made any difference to our gate figures.

Eric Mc

67,260 posts

134 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
I always think last minute ad hoc changes to an airshow are generally not a "good idea".

fadeaway

1,358 posts

95 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
mrloudly said:
The Red Arrows were there, the Blades were there, the BBMF were there, they knew alright...
Given that XH558 isn't connected to any of the above, why do you assert that they must have known?

DamienB

721 posts

88 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
Eric - we don't do ad hoc hence why I mentioned careful rearranging; it's not something we could have rejigged on the day but of course with VTST knowing days in advance that they had a display commitment it would not have needed an on-the-day arrangement.
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mrloudly

2,163 posts

104 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
fadeaway said:
mrloudly said:
The Red Arrows were there, the Blades were there, the BBMF were there, they knew alright...
Given that XH558 isn't connected to any of the above, why do you assert that they must have known?
I would guess (hope) for one, the Sywell area was "NOTAM" restricted and this would have been checked during the planning stage for the "Private Display".
TVOC works very closely with the Blades and I wouldn't be at all surprised that TVOC were contacted to display at Sywell. Maybe, just maybe, Sywell didn't want to
pay the full rate, as it's air display is in aid of charity. Maybe, just maybe, a fk you to an en-route fly past was the result... We'll never know, but IMHO it does seem
very strange...

DamienB

721 posts

88 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
We didn't book XH558 as we've done so twice and had two no-shows. The level of grief we get from the public when a star act does not turn up is, shall we say, impressive. So we spent the money on the Red Arrows instead.

mrloudly

2,163 posts

104 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
DamienB said:
We didn't book XH558 as we've done so twice and had two no-shows. The level of grief we get from the public when a star act does not turn up is, shall we say, impressive. So we spent the money on the Red Arrows instead.
Ahh OK, I think I understand now ;-)

No car park set to's this year I trust?

Eric Mc

67,260 posts

134 months

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Monday 20th August 2012 quote quote all
DamienB said:
Eric - we don't do ad hoc hence why I mentioned careful rearranging; it's not something we could have rejigged on the day but of course with VTST knowing days in advance that they had a display commitment it would not have needed an on-the-day arrangement.
Exactly - it's always best to stick to the original plans when it comes to airshows.

DamienB

721 posts

88 months

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mrloudly said:
No car park set to's this year I trust?
By all accounts no problems whatsoever with leaving the show and just some delays getting in on one particular route. I think we've pretty much cracked it on the traffic front and a slight adjustment to that route will help next time.

230TE

527 posts

55 months

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Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all


One of the young men in the photo is my Dad.

Eric Mc

67,260 posts

134 months

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Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
XH558 looks nice in white too.

DamienB

721 posts

88 months

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Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
I'm also involved in the Little Gransden show, which - like Sywell - falls on the same day that XH558 is displaying at Dunsfold (a public display this time).

So I'm pleased to say we now have a flypast from XH558 scheduled for our show at Little Gransden - details of the rest of the line-up are at the show's website - www.littlegransdenshow.co.uk

Ali Chappussy

181 posts

14 months

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Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
Nice one Damien.

Saw 558 fly over the Bird Fair at Rutland Water last Sunday, just about everyone looked skywards and followed it until it could no longer be seen!!

Chrisgr31

7,424 posts

124 months

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Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
DamienB said:
We didn't book XH558 as we've done so twice and had two no-shows. The level of grief we get from the public when a star act does not turn up is, shall we say, impressive. So we spent the money on the Red Arrows instead.
If they dont turn up do you get your money back?

DamienB

721 posts

88 months

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Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
Most display acts you don't pay for until after the show so no-show = no-dough.

onyx39

3,469 posts

19 months

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Wednesday 22nd August 2012 quote quote all
Eric Mc said:
XH558 looks nice in white too.
I agree I would love to see her reprinted. I guess three are more important things to spend their cash on though!

knight

4,118 posts

148 months

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Wednesday 22nd August 2012 quote quote all
Does anyone know what time it is supposed to be displaying at Dunsfold this weekend?

Mutley

2,122 posts

128 months

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Thursday 23rd August 2012 quote quote all
On facebook, 558 Are saying that at some point today either to or from the Clacton airshow, they'll be transiting via Southend and overlying XL426.

Just wish for once I was at home. I'd camp out at the airport to see that.

aeropilot

7,005 posts

96 months

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Thursday 23rd August 2012 quote quote all
knight said:
Does anyone know what time it is supposed to be displaying at Dunsfold this weekend?
Given the projected weather conditions for the south east this weekend......be prepared that it might not.
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