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aeropilot

34,578 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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PanzerCommander said:
But I can see merit for her going to Bruntingthorpe too with the cold war jets they have there.
I suspect the "past issues" between the Walton family and TVOC/VTTS would preclude that happening......even though, 'in theory' its seems the other logical location.

Eric Mc

122,021 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.

Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

262 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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O-oh.
The fact that there has been no prior planning or build [no I do not count a picture on an internet page as proof of intent] is a concern for the ultimate future of '558.
I have my own thoughts about the administration of this project but will keep them for another day, hopefully my fears will prove unfounded...

BrettMRC

4,087 posts

160 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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I'll be sat in the garden watching her on July 11th smile

End of an era.

We need to build some huge 4 engined delta drones to make up for it! wink

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Mojocvh said:
O-oh.
The fact that there has been no prior planning or build [no I do not count a picture on an internet page as proof of intent] is a concern for the ultimate future of '558.
I have my own thoughts about the administration of this project but will keep them for another day, hopefully my fears will prove unfounded...
Piss up and brewery are often words I like to use for VTTS administration.

slartibartfast

4,014 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Eric Mc said:
The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.
how come?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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ecsrobin said:
Piss up and brewery are often words I like to use for VTTS administration.
There have been a few cock ups certainly, but that's going a bit far.

The fact is they did get a complex four engined jet bomber flying on the civilian register and kept it flying for several years. Something many people (including me) thought was impossible. Certainly more of an achievement than a piss up in a brewery, or posting snide remarks on internet forums.

How did Roosevelt put it? "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better......"



Eric Mc

122,021 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.
how come?
Airfield owners want to sell the land for a housing development.

slartibartfast

4,014 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Eric Mc said:
slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.
how come?
Airfield owners want to sell the land for a housing development.
st! how on earth are they going to get a Vulcan off site?

Eric Mc

122,021 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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That's the problem. In pieces - I expect.

aeropilot

34,578 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.
how come?
Airfield owners want to sell the land for a housing development.
st! how on earth are they going to get a Vulcan off site?
With one of these.....



Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 19th May 19:56

Fonz

361 posts

184 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Dr Jekyll said:
There have been a few cock ups certainly, but that's going a bit far.

The fact is they did get a complex four engined jet bomber flying on the civilian register and kept it flying for several years. Something many people (including me) thought was impossible. Certainly more of an achievement than a piss up in a brewery, or posting snide remarks on internet forums.

How did Roosevelt put it? "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better......"
Very well put, +1

slartibartfast

4,014 posts

201 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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aeropilot said:
slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.
how come?
Airfield owners want to sell the land for a housing development.
st! how on earth are they going to get a Vulcan off site?
With one of these.....



Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 19th May 19:56
what a horrible sight and such a waste!

Mojocvh

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16,837 posts

262 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Fonz said:
Dr Jekyll said:
There have been a few cock ups certainly, but that's going a bit far.

The fact is they did get a complex four engined jet bomber flying on the civilian register and kept it flying for several years. Something many people (including me) thought was impossible. Certainly more of an achievement than a piss up in a brewery, or posting snide remarks on internet forums.

How did Roosevelt put it? "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better......"
Very well put, +1
We Shall See...

yellowjack

17,077 posts

166 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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aeropilot said:
slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
slartibartfast said:
Eric Mc said:
The Vulcan at Wellesbourne Mountford is also under threat.
how come?
Airfield owners want to sell the land for a housing development.
st! how on earth are they going to get a Vulcan off site?
With one of these.....



Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 19th May 19:56
Cosford, Cardiff, Blackpool. A surprising number of historically significant aircraft end up in externally stored 'collections', and as years go by their owners lose interest, lack funds, or die, and there's no-one with the time/enthusiasm/funds filling the gap. Add to that the fact that larger airframes take up lots of space, and there is commercial pressure on that space, then accept that there are several well looked after survivors (such as Duxford, Hendon, and XH558 herself) and the imperative to save them 'for the nation' is reduced. Sadly, campaigns to save such historical aircraft often don't build sufficient momentum until it's too late, and the aircraft are already beyond any realistic chance of being saved.

Sad to see '558 grounded permanently, but at least someone had the forethought to put her back into the air for a good few years before she suffered a fate similar to many others that rotted away or were cut up and 'recycled'. We've also got the RAF's decision to keep her flying until 1993 to thank for her being in sufficiently good condition to even consider a return to flight in private hands. I remember going to Biggin Hill to see it during the RAF Vulcan's "Final Display Season" in 1992 (I think). Such a shame that the BBMF wasn't expanded to become an 'RAF Historic Flight', with a few significant cold war jets, etc, added to the roster, but budgets don't allow for luxuries like that, and eventually the historic aircraft would have outnumbered serving ones. Fingers crossed now that she ends up in the right place to ensure her long term future, and not somewhere with an insecure future where at best she'll end up marooned in a museum, smack in the middle of a housing estate, and at worst, forgotten and unloved until the (gas) axeman arrives.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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All sadly very true

I visited the Midland Air Museum a couple of weeks ago and it is depressing to be reminded just how much work has to be ongoing to keep the exhibits even just tidy

They are doing all they can but I watched a historic Armée de l'Air Mystere being repainted by volunteers

Silver paint on a yard broom (OK just for dramatic effect, really they were using paint rollers), quite an unedifying sight but essential to keep her looking nice and keeping the Ally worm at bay for a while

Chocmonster

919 posts

211 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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According to this article she will be coming up to Teesside Airport for their airshow on Saturday 29th August!

http://skyliveevents.co.uk/vulcan/

ATTAK Z

11,002 posts

189 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Looks like Vulcan will be airborne around midday tomorrow... flying to Scampton/Waddington

onyx39

11,122 posts

150 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Apparently will be doing a 30 minute display above Waddington @ 1600 hrs this afternoon.

central

16,744 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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@XH558 said:
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