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Tyre Tread said:
Thank you so much for that link.
It got dusty in here watching that. How does an aeroplane evoke such a reaction?
I'd have loved to have been there.
Saturday was apparently kev but Sunday bill Ramsey. Watching the Saturday and comparing the display I saw on Sunday they were. Indeed very similar, if anything bill held the vertical climb at the end for even longerIt got dusty in here watching that. How does an aeroplane evoke such a reaction?
I'd have loved to have been there.
RIAT pics are great.
Xh558 mentioned today that they would be flying with the Blades but would not say if it was at Sywell (Northants).
After tracking the old bird on 'plane Finder' she started looping at Pitsford.
So I decided to drive up the motorway with the chance of getting my first and possible only look this year.
Then hit a traffic jam on the M1, aware time was not on my side.
Got to Northampton, she was still looping, so headed to Pitsford. Still aware that I may be too late. A43 near Weston Favell I suddenly saw her pass ahead, huge surprise.
I stopped near Holcot to check if she had gone, no reception, then I got a glimpse of the Blades (photo). I set off again and they all passed on my left, sadly I couldn't hear '558 (damn noisy exhaust). I arrived at Pitsford not even two miles further, for a lovely backdrop and she had gone.
:-(
Xh558 mentioned today that they would be flying with the Blades but would not say if it was at Sywell (Northants).
After tracking the old bird on 'plane Finder' she started looping at Pitsford.
So I decided to drive up the motorway with the chance of getting my first and possible only look this year.
Then hit a traffic jam on the M1, aware time was not on my side.
Got to Northampton, she was still looping, so headed to Pitsford. Still aware that I may be too late. A43 near Weston Favell I suddenly saw her pass ahead, huge surprise.
I stopped near Holcot to check if she had gone, no reception, then I got a glimpse of the Blades (photo). I set off again and they all passed on my left, sadly I couldn't hear '558 (damn noisy exhaust). I arrived at Pitsford not even two miles further, for a lovely backdrop and she had gone.
:-(
Not sure if this facebook link will work - https://www.facebook.com/mark.skinner.140/media_se...
Over my house in very gloomy conditions.
Over my house in very gloomy conditions.
central said:
Not sure if this facebook link will work - https://www.facebook.com/mark.skinner.140/media_se...
Over my house in very gloomy conditions.
Not public view, looks like the viewer needs to log in.Over my house in very gloomy conditions.
fatboy69 said:
I have been working 'air-side'at RIAT & the rumour doing the rounds this morning was that the CAA were far from happy with the way 558 was flown yesterday so it is said that they 'had words' yesterday afternoon with the flight crew.
The RIAT Flying Control Committee were happy enough with Saturdays Vulcan display by all accounts, no rules broken......??I believe they were less happy with two other display pilots over the weekend though.....
Showed my Dad the RIAT footage. He then told me how he remembers watching the Vulcans do bombing runs on the range at Cowden. (My Grandparents had a caravan there). He describes a speck on the horizon, coming in low and fast, smoky engines, getting over the range, lifting the nose and releasing the bomb, before climbing steep into the clouds, like at the end of the RIAT Saturday display, and flying away.
Git!
I remember sitting on the cliffs with my Dad and Granddad, watching the A10s, and some other fast jet, Tornado maybe (?) practice over Cowden (just), and walking around on the beach after the red flags were taken down. I was only small though. Never a Vulcan though. Alas, all washed into the sea now, people pass, but the memories remain.
Git!
I remember sitting on the cliffs with my Dad and Granddad, watching the A10s, and some other fast jet, Tornado maybe (?) practice over Cowden (just), and walking around on the beach after the red flags were taken down. I was only small though. Never a Vulcan though. Alas, all washed into the sea now, people pass, but the memories remain.
marksx said:
Showed my Dad the RIAT footage. He then told me how he remembers watching the Vulcans do bombing runs on the range at Cowden. (My Grandparents had a caravan there). He describes a speck on the horizon, coming in low and fast, smoky engines, getting over the range, lifting the nose and releasing the bomb, before climbing steep into the clouds, like at the end of the RIAT Saturday display, and flying away.
Git!
I remember sitting on the cliffs with my Dad and Granddad, watching the A10s, and some other fast jet, Tornado maybe (?) practice over Cowden (just), and walking around on the beach after the red flags were taken down. I was only small though. Never a Vulcan though. Alas, all washed into the sea now, people pass, but the memories remain.
There is some Vulcan footage in this BBC programme from 1974 - made at a time when showing off what the RAF could do was considered a good thing - Git!
I remember sitting on the cliffs with my Dad and Granddad, watching the A10s, and some other fast jet, Tornado maybe (?) practice over Cowden (just), and walking around on the beach after the red flags were taken down. I was only small though. Never a Vulcan though. Alas, all washed into the sea now, people pass, but the memories remain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dy31I_saWM
Looks like an attempt to fly another year
Taken from VTST website:
MPs to debate Vulcan XH558
Jul 21, 2015 by Ian Homer.
this afternoon in Westminster Hall.MPs to pay tribute to XH558, the last Flying Vulcan
Briefing to include exciting plans for XH558 to focus on
inspiring new generations of engineers to help solve UK technology skills shortage
Tuesday, July 21st at 16:00; Defence Minister Philip Dunne will respond to a debate in Westminster Hall initiated by Sir Gerald Howarth MP to mark the final display flights of Vulcan bomber XH558, which was restored to flight in 2007. Sir Gerald will set out the history of the restoration, the massive public support for the project and exciting future plans to put XH558 at the heart of a new type of visitor attraction and engineering education centre that will inspire future generations to study technical disciplines. He will also request that the aircraft be permitted to fly for a further year.
“It is unprecedented to have such passionate support for an aircraft,” commented Dr Robert Pleming, chief executive of the charity that owns and operates Vulcan XH558. “This is the second time that she has been discussed at Westminster; the importance of a flying Vulcan was subject of an Early Day Motion signed by 128 MPs in April 2002 at the start of efforts to restore her to flight.”
Pleming emphasises that the debate will not change the planned future for the aircraft. “When we lose the support of the companies who act as our technical authorities later this year, we will no longer be permitted to fly. This is not because of any question over her safety; she is currently as safe as any aircraft flying and is certificated to amongst the world’s highest aviation standards.”
Sir Gerald Howarth, a Trustee of Vulcan to the Sky Trust, has been a passionate supporter of the project – which started with the world’s most complex engineering heritage restoration – since the initial plans to return a Vulcan to the skies. “XH558 is an iconic example of that remarkable period of intense post-war innovation that made British technology the envy of the world,” he says. “Today, we struggle to attract enough young people into the disciplines needed to support high-technology British engineering companies. Robert and his team have impressive plans to use this remarkable aircraft to help solve this challenge by inspiring new generations with the excitement of engineering. XH558 may be reaching the end of her flying life, but she has a valuable future ahead of her.”
Dr Pleming will be available for interviews in Westminster around the event.
Taken from VTST website:
MPs to debate Vulcan XH558
Jul 21, 2015 by Ian Homer.
this afternoon in Westminster Hall.MPs to pay tribute to XH558, the last Flying Vulcan
Briefing to include exciting plans for XH558 to focus on
inspiring new generations of engineers to help solve UK technology skills shortage
Tuesday, July 21st at 16:00; Defence Minister Philip Dunne will respond to a debate in Westminster Hall initiated by Sir Gerald Howarth MP to mark the final display flights of Vulcan bomber XH558, which was restored to flight in 2007. Sir Gerald will set out the history of the restoration, the massive public support for the project and exciting future plans to put XH558 at the heart of a new type of visitor attraction and engineering education centre that will inspire future generations to study technical disciplines. He will also request that the aircraft be permitted to fly for a further year.
“It is unprecedented to have such passionate support for an aircraft,” commented Dr Robert Pleming, chief executive of the charity that owns and operates Vulcan XH558. “This is the second time that she has been discussed at Westminster; the importance of a flying Vulcan was subject of an Early Day Motion signed by 128 MPs in April 2002 at the start of efforts to restore her to flight.”
Pleming emphasises that the debate will not change the planned future for the aircraft. “When we lose the support of the companies who act as our technical authorities later this year, we will no longer be permitted to fly. This is not because of any question over her safety; she is currently as safe as any aircraft flying and is certificated to amongst the world’s highest aviation standards.”
Sir Gerald Howarth, a Trustee of Vulcan to the Sky Trust, has been a passionate supporter of the project – which started with the world’s most complex engineering heritage restoration – since the initial plans to return a Vulcan to the skies. “XH558 is an iconic example of that remarkable period of intense post-war innovation that made British technology the envy of the world,” he says. “Today, we struggle to attract enough young people into the disciplines needed to support high-technology British engineering companies. Robert and his team have impressive plans to use this remarkable aircraft to help solve this challenge by inspiring new generations with the excitement of engineering. XH558 may be reaching the end of her flying life, but she has a valuable future ahead of her.”
Dr Pleming will be available for interviews in Westminster around the event.
mat13 said:
K50 DEL said:
I managed just over 10Gb of photos today, approx. 2300 all told...
Just a couple of 558 here, it was an amazing display and the commentator had a huge lump in his throat as he said it was the final time the skies above Fairford would see a Vulcan display.
Amazing how the crowd started to thin as soon as 558 had finished!
Would you mind if i had that second photo put on a canvas? Happy to send a few quid to a charity of your choice if thats ok?Just a couple of 558 here, it was an amazing display and the commentator had a huge lump in his throat as he said it was the final time the skies above Fairford would see a Vulcan display.
Amazing how the crowd started to thin as soon as 558 had finished!
Tyre Tread said:
jmorgan said:
My understanding is three (?) firms that support the flight activities (I know not how) are withdrawing support and that is a requirement for the chitty to fly?
That is the case but read the article. They're asking for exemption. Two hopes I suspect...As much as she is the 'Peoples Aircraft' if the CAA permit is the issue, I would prefer to see her maintained in flight worthy condition under military ownership and the differing rules that they have ( I'm not an expert but the UK's CAA rules are some of the strictest and the fact she has flown the last 8 years is testament to the work conducted)
Like other countries (Sweden for example) perhaps it's time the BBMF became the Historic Flight, with some real funding from the MP's to support it. The supporting organisations have little financial motivation to support VTTS, but would have a lot more if the RAF /UK Government were asking.
Like other countries (Sweden for example) perhaps it's time the BBMF became the Historic Flight, with some real funding from the MP's to support it. The supporting organisations have little financial motivation to support VTTS, but would have a lot more if the RAF /UK Government were asking.
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