XH558...

[jmorgan]

DrDeAtH said:

XH558 is being discussed in parliament. Debate started at 4pm.....

Damn it, late to the party, something about a vote to an SNP amendment at the moment.

Edit. It was a Westminster Hall debate not a main chamber one.

Edited by jmorgan on Tuesday 21st July 18:13

[DrDeAtH]

Link...

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/90cfce9b-5317...

[Eric Mc]

Gerald Howarth is our local MP an an ex RAF man.

[FourWheelDrift]

John Redwood starts speaking about the Euro and everyone starts to get up and leave

[jmorgan]

Ha!

But can anyone tell me what the process is here, that was a very passionate speech and reply.

[jmorgan]

This just popped in curtesy of a news letter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elyWH5NKoZE

Turn amps up to 11

[eccles]

SMB said:

As much as she is the 'Peoples Aircraft' if the CAA permit is the issue, I would prefer to see her maintained in flight worthy condition under military ownership and the differing rules that they have ( I'm not an expert but the UK's CAA rules are some of the strictest and the fact she has flown the last 8 years is testament to the work conducted)

The military rules are very close to civilian rules these days.

[aeropilot]

Tyre Tread said:

jmorgan said:

My understanding is three (?) firms that support the flight activities (I know not how) are withdrawing support and that is a requirement for the chitty to fly?

That is the case but read the article. They're asking for exemption. Two hopes I suspect...

Indeed.

Shouldn't be any sort of exemption IMHO. If UK PLC want to re-purchase the aircraft and put it back on the mil register and get BAe and or RR to operate it under COMA then fair enough - but I really can't see either of those organisations agreeing to that at all

[FourWheelDrift]

All the talk of defending Britain during the cold war, missions and effective bombing and mentioning the B-52 being a 100 year old design by the time it's retired it's almost as if they are campaigning for a B Mk 3 to go into production

[marksx]

Eric Mc said:

There is some Vulcan footage in this BBC programme from 1974 - made at a time when showing off what the RAF could do was considered a good thing -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dy31I_saWM

Oh wow, great footage, thanks Eric! Vulcan, Victor, Lightning, Harrier, Phantom, Jaguar, all in one clip. It's almost everything that sparked my aviation interest in one video. Shame it is cut short.

[Hooli]

FourWheelDrift said:

All the talk of defending Britain during the cold war, missions and effective bombing and mentioning the B-52 being a 100 year old design by the time it's retired it's almost as if they are campaigning for a B Mk 3 to go into production

I'd vote for that

[Scuffers]

FourWheelDrift said:

All the talk of defending Britain during the cold war, missions and effective bombing and mentioning the B-52 being a 100 year old design by the time it's retired it's almost as if they are campaigning for a B Mk 3 to go into production

imagine what it would be like if they re-made them using modern materials/manufacturing/etc.

A Vulcan made with composites, using 4 Rolls-Royce F136 engines etc etc...

[jmorgan]

Scuffers said:

A Vulcan made with composites, using 4 Rolls-Royce F136 engines etc etc...

If I were Richard Branson.......

[Dr Interceptor]

jmorgan said:

If I were Richard Branson.......

You probably still couldn't afford the development costs

[FourWheelDrift]

Perhaps I should have said B.4 since the 3 was the designation that was going to be given to the Skybolt carriers.

[jmorgan]

Dr Interceptor said:

jmorgan said:

If I were Richard Branson.......

You probably still couldn't afford the development costs

How hard can it be, I used to design them all the time when I was in junior school. Wings n all........ maybe a battle ship in the background with shooting and stuff pew pew.....

[Eric Mc]

jmorgan said:

How hard can it be, I used to design them all the time when I was in junior school. Wings n all........ maybe a battle ship in the background with shooting and stuff pew pew.....

You're getting confused with Trumpton.

[Scuffers]

Dr Interceptor said:

jmorgan said:

If I were Richard Branson.......

You probably still couldn't afford the development costs

depends on who you asked to design it and what you asked for.

you only have to look at the F35 programme to realise just how stupid it can get.

[kurt535]

Scuffers said:

Dr Interceptor said:

jmorgan said:

If I were Richard Branson.......

You probably still couldn't afford the development costs

depends on who you asked to design it and what you asked for.

you only have to look at the F35 programme to realise just how stupid it can get.

F is for fu@$k£d

[Scuffers]

kurt535 said:

F is for fu@$k£d

you're not wrong.

F35,

Plan - lets save money by making 1 plane for 3 jobs

outcome - end up with a plane that does none of the roles well, costs 100X more than budget and never actually works.