XH558...

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richw_82

992 posts

187 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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While we have unofficial help from some of the VTTS engineers, there's no plans for their organisation to be taking on our Shackleton. With respect to the PR, the VTTS really bent over backwards to help us with that; including letting us feature the Shack as part of their club day at Coventry. A massive favour and one we thank them for.


RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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I've heard that Pleming is now involved with the Shack... how much are you paying him?! That man is trouble, as far as I'm concerned!

Trevatanus

11,128 posts

151 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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RoverP6B said:
I've heard that Pleming is now involved with the Shack... how much are you paying him?! That man is trouble, as far as I'm concerned!
I am sure that I read somewhere that he draws a fairly substantial salary for what he does, so I guess he is keeping himself in employment.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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VTTS pay him 75k a year.

SMB

1,513 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Trevatanus said:
RoverP6B said:
I've heard that Pleming is now involved with the Shack... how much are you paying him?! That man is trouble, as far as I'm concerned!
I am sure that I read somewhere that he draws a fairly substantial salary for what he does, so I guess he is keeping himself in employment.
If you read back, Rover has some underlying issue with VTTS and Pleming(undeclared), and it was he who aledged the salary(page 275), so you are in danger of confirming his own unproven assertions.


The accounts don't give the detail to confirm this, I'd be happy to review any evidence that exists.

Edited by SMB on Friday 23 October 13:26

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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The accounts specifically mention Pleming's 75k salary, and that nobody else is paid more than 60k.

SMB

1,513 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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RoverP6B said:
The accounts specifically mention Pleming's 75k salary, and that nobody else is paid more than 60k.
please paste in the links etc for review , past years aswell to see if this is reflecting 8 years of salary or recovery in latter years of time invested

that said i do stand by 75k being a pittance for a ceo. At the end of the day he succeeded in getting a complex jet into the air for 8 years, no one else has done that.

Riley Blue

21,019 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Google it - 2014 VTTST accounts confirm £75K with 32 employees and a total salary bill of £757,529.

Ali Chappussy

876 posts

146 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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RoverP6B said:
Right. I wonder what state XL318's airframe is in? I think she's the only Vulcan other than '558 always to have been hangared. If the systems could be fixed, it might perhaps be possible to swap her for '558... would seem a better idea than the idiotic Doncaster scheme.
I don't know what's more worrying. The fact you wrote this, or God forbid, you actually think it's even remotely possible!

SMB

1,513 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Riley Blue said:
Google it - 2014 VTTST accounts confirm £75K with 32 employees and a total salary bill of £757,529.
Ok I have read and read prior years,
I think it says between 70 and 80, so it could be 70 to be pedantic, and was less in previous years. Even so it's still nothing for a full time CEO, would you rather he earned nothing and did it all for love and lost his house etc? Reality is that he made this his life for years, he is justified in taking a salary.

aeropilot

34,718 posts

228 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Ali Chappussy said:
RoverP6B said:
Right. I wonder what state XL318's airframe is in? I think she's the only Vulcan other than '558 always to have been hangared. If the systems could be fixed, it might perhaps be possible to swap her for '558... would seem a better idea than the idiotic Doncaster scheme.
I don't know what's more worrying. The fact you wrote this, or God forbid, you actually think it's even remotely possible!
laugh


richw_82

992 posts

187 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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RoverP6B said:
I've heard that Pleming is now involved with the Shack... how much are you paying him?! That man is trouble, as far as I'm concerned!
You heard wrong. We have a bit of assistance from a couple of the engineers, and from the guys at NDT Aerospace. Our Trust's Chairman hasn't even met or spoke to Dr Pleming... so I'm happy to put an end to that rumour.

Both Dr Bob and Andrew Edmondson have been to Coventry a couple of times, but they've not been over to say hello or shown much of an interest.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Well, if 558's time really is done, and her withdrawal hasn't happened because of political reasons (which I doubt), then dismantling her and trucking her to Hendon, swapping her for XL318, with some exchange of parts between the two, might (if XL318's airframe is in a restorable state), would give '558 a conspicuous display position and the possibility of a flying Vulcan for years to come... it's just a thought, whether it would be feasible is another matter.

Glad to hear Pleming isn't involved with the Shackleton, contrary to the reports I'd heard. He by no means carries the credit for the restoration of XH558. That belongs to the Waltons at Brunters and the numerous engineers who actually restored the aircraft.



Taken from http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends...

MartG

20,702 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Onboard video of the Northern Tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi_ZQslBH8o

MartG

20,702 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Spotted myself in the video smile

Wide view over Warton



Zoomed in - in the red circle is me, my son, and his girlfriend smile


miniman

25,034 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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MartG said:
Onboard video of the Northern Tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi_ZQslBH8o
Nice one, great final pass with the sun behind and shadow on the ground.

Have ordered the final season DVD.

Riley Blue

21,019 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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I hope the final edit is without the music so the Vulcan can be heard plus, perhaps, a discrete caption of where it's flying over for those of us unfamiliar with t'north.

Oldred_V8S

3,715 posts

239 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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RoverP6B said:
Well, if 558's time really is done, and her withdrawal hasn't happened because of political reasons (which I doubt), then dismantling her and trucking her to Hendon, swapping her for XL318, with some exchange of parts between the two, might (if XL318's airframe is in a restorable state), would give '558 a conspicuous display position and the possibility of a flying Vulcan for years to come... it's just a thought, whether it would be feasible is another matter.
Jeez not this again. And who do you think will act as the underwriting authority for XL318?

Chrisgr31

13,496 posts

256 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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RoverP6B said:
Glad to hear Pleming isn't involved with the Shackleton, contrary to the reports I'd heard. He by no means carries the credit for the restoration of XH558. That belongs to the Waltons at Brunters and the numerous engineers who actually restored the aircraft.
Can you explain what you actually have against Pleming? Just because its a charity it doesn't mean that everyone has to give their time for free, and a £70-£80k salary is not a lot for a CEO type position.

SydneyBridge

8,657 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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Every charity has a reasonably well paid CEO and it would be assumed they earn their wages many times over and would be able to command a far higher wage in the private sector.

Anyway, final flight confirmed but no further details