XH558...

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El Capitano

1,154 posts

193 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I had just landed at EMA when it did its fly by so got a great view from the ramp. Didn't realise it was coming in so just good timing, nice low fly past and gentle wing wave before heading home, fantastic noise and first time I have personally seen it flying. (used to park next to it a few times in Brize)

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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FourWheelDrift said:
Eric Mc said:
He'd also have a go at yuou for calling it a "pattern".
It's the quote from Top Gun.
Well I never.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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rofl

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Well he was going on about - "He'd also have a go at you for calling it a "pattern". Next time you see Martin Withers, ask him what it's like to fly a Vulcan down the Grand Canyon at below rim height."

Which was of no relation whatsoever to the quote. So sometimes I find myself having to explain things at a much lower level for the elderly.

Eric Mc

121,958 posts

265 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Picky picky.

Martin Withers tells a few good tales so get to see him speaking if you can.

Chaz9950

1,128 posts

144 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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skinley said:
Chaz9950 said:
Just stumbled on the thread! My granddad worked on this very plane, XH558, at Bruntingthrope, for about 10 years. I can't be totally sure how long it was.
97 ft 1 in (29.59 m)

HTH.
hehe

Actually, would have been a bit shorter than this at the time - they had the nosecone off, and were removing the old, heavy electronics or radar equipment, or whatever it was. I can't remember, I was only young!

So there!

hehe

spitfire-ian

3,838 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Chaz9950 said:
hehe

Actually, would have been a bit shorter than this at the time - they had the nosecone off, and were removing the old, heavy electronics or radar equipment, or whatever it was. I can't remember, I was only young!

So there!

hehe
Not neccesarily. The radome detaches from the bottom of the nose so the aircraft would still be the same length smile



Edited for pic.

Edited by spitfire-ian on Tuesday 22 May 15:21

Chaz9950

1,128 posts

144 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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spitfire-ian said:
Not neccesarily. The radome detaches from the bottom of the nose so the aircraft would still be the same length smile



Edited for pic.

Edited by spitfire-ian on Tuesday 22 May 15:21
Holy st, what the hell is this, the plane-police?

I was what, 10??! lol

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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spitfire-ian said:
Not neccesarily. The radome detaches from the bottom of the nose so the aircraft would still be the same length smile



Edited for pic.

Edited by spitfire-ian on Tuesday 22 May 15:21
I remember a Vulcan navigator once telling me that the 3 guys in the back didn't stand much chance if they had to bale out when the gear was down - this pic seems to illustrate why !

Yertis

18,042 posts

266 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Chaz9950 said:
Holy st, what the hell is this, the plane-police?
You're new here aren't you. Better get used to it.

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2012
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Seight_Returns said:
spitfire-ian said:
Not neccesarily. The radome detaches from the bottom of the nose so the aircraft would still be the same length smile



Edited for pic.

Edited by spitfire-ian on Tuesday 22 May 15:21
I remember a Vulcan navigator once telling me that the 3 guys in the back didn't stand much chance if they had to bale out when the gear was down - this pic seems to illustrate why !
The Victor was even worse, on pulling the handle the seat would rotate to point at the door and spit them into number 3 engine.

Scotty2

1,270 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Something on the website about "fault investigation" "Crew OK". - What's happened?


marksx

5,052 posts

190 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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According to FB they have had an aborted take off with loud bangs and smoke from the engines.

Two engines are damaged by the sounds of things.

"She's being taken back to the hangar for inspection. Definately problems with two engines but not yet sure what or why. I hope to talk with the engineering director later and will post an update as soon as I can."

EDIT - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b17XmT9jTBw



Edited by marksx on Monday 28th May 14:08

Scotty2

1,270 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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This from the Youtube comments

"Vulcan bomber XH558, regn G-VLCN, out for test run at 1202hrs today, engine warm up on threshold, misfire then loud bang as enginew were quickly stopped. catastrophic engine failre to number #1 engine. runway was closed for all traffic. One incoming Thomson had to be diverted to Manchester airport. Vulcan moved off the runway under its own power to taxiway. Fragments of engine on runway being removed by sweeper/assisted by Seagull bird scarer vehicles.
Vulcan was towed off taxi way at 1304hrs to hangar. no one injured.
2 airport Fire appliances attended scene, and SYP -SY99 helicopter was in area to give assistance if reqd.
not known how soon the engine can be repaired or replaced ?, dont know if it will be now used in any display for some time/Jubilee ??"


MartG

20,666 posts

204 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Damn - they've only got a limited number of engines left, so having one go bang could drastically shorten its flying life :-(

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Eight engines to start with, being rotated to even out their remaining life in case one blew up.

spitfire-ian

3,838 posts

228 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Vulcan Website said:
Engine failure update

XH558 was scheduled to take off at noon on May 28th for a crew currency and display training flight. Just after the start of the take-off roll, she experienced problems with two of her Olympus engines. The crew immediately shut all engines down and everyone is safe. At this stage, we don't have any further information but we will keep supporters informed via Twitter (@XH558), Facebook (Vulcan XH558) and the news section (here) of the charity's website (www.vulcantothesky.org).

Unfortunately, this means that she will not be able to fly for at least two weeks, although we will not know exactly how long rectification will take until the problem has been thoroughly investigated.

We will provide further updates when we know more.



Many thanks for supporting Vulcan XH558

uk_vette

3,336 posts

204 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Sad news,

However, here might be a stupid question,or two

1/ Can they make a new engine from scratch, or would that just be way too expensive?

2/ Is there any other engine that they can fit?

please, no laughing, I don't know zit about the Vulcan, just it looks great.

vette

LukeSi

5,753 posts

161 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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uk_vette said:
Sad news,

However, here might be a stupid question,or two

1/ Can they make a new engine from scratch, or would that just be way too expensive?

2/ Is there any other engine that they can fit?

please, no laughing, I don't know zit about the Vulcan, just it looks great.

vette
I don't think the tooling exits anymore.
Yes, they have 8 which they rotate to ensure that engine wear is even, that way they have spares.

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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2 engines? that's odd. It wasn't unusual for a Victor to lose an engine and promptly lose its neighbour as bits would shoot out the front and into the throat of the one next to it. This was due to the Conways having an extra bit on the front so I'm told. I don't believe the Olympus had those issues