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Elroy Blue said:
I's not really about money, it's about the design authority. Concorde was withdrawn because Bae and Airbus would no longer provide the engineering support. There aren't going to be any more Olympus parts made by BAE and they can't be made by anyone else.
Get MR evans to pay for engine upgrades i.e. from another aircraftElroy Blue said:
I's not really about money, it's about the design authority. Concorde was withdrawn because Bae and Airbus would no longer provide the engineering support. There aren't going to be any more Olympus parts made by BAE and they can't be made by anyone else.
With enough money anything can be done.I'm sure BAE would be flattered to think that they'd been making parts for the Olympus, however Rolls Royce might be a bit miffed!
I'd have thought Rolls would certainly re manufacture parts at a price, but what price, and would anyone be willing to pay?
Design authority was subbed out to Marshall Aerospace, and I'm sure they'd be on board.....again at a price.
Elroy Blue said:
I's not really about money, it's about the design authority. Concorde was withdrawn because Bae and Airbus would no longer provide the engineering support. There aren't going to be any more Olympus parts made by BAE and they can't be made by anyone else.
BAe had no authority over Concorde once they sold their share in Airbus.HoHoHo said:
Huntsman said:
Apparently Chris Evans has twittered that he's going to look into keeing 558 flying and to save the Muppets....
Its time to start the engines, its time to light the lights....
probably nothing more than publicity but if he can spent £15m on a car (or whatever if was) , he can afford to spend a few quid on 558!Its time to start the engines, its time to light the lights....
slartibartfast said:
Elroy Blue said:
I's not really about money, it's about the design authority. Concorde was withdrawn because Bae and Airbus would no longer provide the engineering support. There aren't going to be any more Olympus parts made by BAE and they can't be made by anyone else.
Get MR evans to pay for engine upgrades i.e. from another aircraftslartibartfast said:
Elroy Blue said:
I's not really about money, it's about the design authority. Concorde was withdrawn because Bae and Airbus would no longer provide the engineering support. There aren't going to be any more Olympus parts made by BAE and they can't be made by anyone else.
Get MR evans to pay for engine upgrades i.e. from another aircraftIf they fit 301s and do all the necessary conversion work then it won't howl like it does now. 301 engined Vulcans didn't do it and the howl is a big part of it's draw.
XM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
XM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
Th relevant point is that there aren't any more engines with the relevant paperwork to be airworthy.
Unless someone can A) find some airworthy Olympus engines in a shed somewhere, B) persuade RR to overhaul the engines or C) persuade the CAA to allow them to be used past the 600 hour mark without an RR overhaul then it has to stop flying when the existing engines are lifed out.
I'm quite sure all 3 possibilities have been fully explored.
Unless someone can A) find some airworthy Olympus engines in a shed somewhere, B) persuade RR to overhaul the engines or C) persuade the CAA to allow them to be used past the 600 hour mark without an RR overhaul then it has to stop flying when the existing engines are lifed out.
I'm quite sure all 3 possibilities have been fully explored.
FourWheelDrift said:
If they fit 301s and do all the necessary conversion work then it won't howl like it does now. 301 engined Vulcans didn't do it and the howl is a big part of it's draw.
XM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
Nice video XM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
Must be really, really tempting to just open her up a little bit and get it off the ground!
Will be a shame when 558 is used for similar displays
So anyway - what about this fundraising Sunday service at Finingley - Garlick?
I have fond memories of the place - one of my first driving lessons was on the runway in my old mans mini staff car. He was engineering wing commander at the time.
Sadly I havent been back for many years but would gladly make the trip for a fundraiser.
I have fond memories of the place - one of my first driving lessons was on the runway in my old mans mini staff car. He was engineering wing commander at the time.
Sadly I havent been back for many years but would gladly make the trip for a fundraiser.
FourWheelDrift said:
If they fit 301s and do all the necessary conversion work then it won't howl like it does now. 301 engined Vulcans didn't do it and the howl is a big part of it's draw.
XM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
Sorry but I heard Vulcan howl, they only ran to 95% and she still sounded goodXM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
That hangar is what later became either Hawk Sqn or 100 Sqn.
We left long before the Hawk arrived - mostly JP4's, Dominies when we left.Did any of the hangers at Finingley ever have two floors of offices on the front instead of the single floor shown in the picture?
Dominie Squadron had an upper floor of offices accessible via a stairway in the hangar front entrance. It was where OC Dominie Sqn's office was (to the left at the top of the stairs) along with OC OPTW's office (Wg Cdr OC Operations and Pilot Training Wing) and his PA to the right.
If you look at Google maps, then working from the far left the hangars were:
Jetstreams / Bulldogs / Rects
Tucanos (JPs in your day)
Dominies + Multi-Engined Standards Sqn
Hawks
100 Sqn
IIRC the Tucano (ex JP) hangar had upstairs offices as well. ISTR the recce room being upstairs.
If you look at Google maps, then working from the far left the hangars were:
Jetstreams / Bulldogs / Rects
Tucanos (JPs in your day)
Dominies + Multi-Engined Standards Sqn
Hawks
100 Sqn
IIRC the Tucano (ex JP) hangar had upstairs offices as well. ISTR the recce room being upstairs.
Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Monday 15th October 23:25
I know it is slightly off thread as I am not certain that the Vulcan pictured is XH558; but here is another photo of Finningley circa '67 or '68. It shows members of the various clubs active at the time.
My old man is the one in the whiter overalls next to the kart - as he ran the Karting Club.
Just as an aside, as he was in charge of the MT section he was tasked with fetching one of the 007 DB6's that featured in one of the Battle of Britain Airshows. I was fortunate enough to be given a 'joyride' in said car around the airbase and along one of the bases's access roads.
Anyway said picture
I have a larger version on Google at
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2-H1kmSMdgRf...
My old man is the one in the whiter overalls next to the kart - as he ran the Karting Club.
Just as an aside, as he was in charge of the MT section he was tasked with fetching one of the 007 DB6's that featured in one of the Battle of Britain Airshows. I was fortunate enough to be given a 'joyride' in said car around the airbase and along one of the bases's access roads.
Anyway said picture
I have a larger version on Google at
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2-H1kmSMdgRf...
slartibartfast said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If they fit 301s and do all the necessary conversion work then it won't howl like it does now. 301 engined Vulcans didn't do it and the howl is a big part of it's draw.
XM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
Sorry but I heard Vulcan howl, they only ran to 95% and she still sounded goodXM655 at Wellesbourne has 301s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoGBtuDqqrU
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