Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 1)

[NSXKeith]

Mojocvh said:

Eric Mc said:

Maybe, but they didn't do much as far as I am aware.

OK Eric I've had enough of it.

The contributions of the F3 fleet in the gulf have been posted here before, if you wish to ignore the efforts and sacrifices of both the air and ground staff in some some spotters w@nk fest that's up to you.

(Cue the inevitable spotters I didn't know the real story.)

For your information, Eric, Squadrons of the Royal Air Force are not presented with Battle Honours ad-hock like the Yanks.

On the instigation of Operation Desert Shield the RAF Sqdn on APC in Cyprus had 48 hours to go from gun camp to a war footing and deployment to Saudi.
They, alongside the Yanks, held the line against overwhelming odds until relieved by superior forces.
My own Sqdn was deployed to Dhahran to relieve them, ON A WAR FOOTING, expecting to be subjected to conventional, chemical, biological and even nuclear attack.
During that time the Sqn operated continuously in both the persecution of the war effort and the reinforcement of the following peace.

Fast forward to the Balkans where the deployed F3's maintained support of the air domination and in particular Intel gathering. Having been present, and witnessed, the debriefs of the F3 crews and what they had recorded and uplinked to SACSOUTH along with the frustration of their being denied permission to engage and intervene.

The Alaram mod on the OCU's aircraft used the basic airframes pure speed, RHWR, modded EECM and DATA link capabilities to the full.

So to surmise Eric, you can't make a purse etc.

However the role that was envisaged for the aircraft was to go out over the winter North Sea and intercept the carriers of nuclear armed cruise missiles before they could launch.

It was sublime in this role, as it's low level speed, maneuverability, radar and loiter was unsurpassed at the time.

With the advent of ASRAAM (and US bottom spec AMRAAM) it gained further important capabilities.

Make no mistake, it is/was an old design and suffers from it.
But if it is employed as initially designed it is/was one of the best airframes and has/had the best operators and proven tactics.

Ask the Yanks on Cape Thunder/Red-Green Flag.

Mo.

Ah good to see someone sticking up for the old birds.

I worked on F3s for 6 years with 25(F) Sqn, travelled all over the world with them and was part of Op DENY FLIGHT in the Balkans too. The F3 flights I had leaves me with a slightly softer spot for them too.

But what will always stick in my memory was when our aircrew were given a 2v4 training sortie during APC in Alaska – which they subsequently went on to win. The point being that the ‘4’ aircraft were F15s! (most of that could be down to the difference in aircrew training though – but I didn’t really say that).

Ahh great days!!!!!!!

[Eric Mc]

That was my point. The crews exceeded the aircraft.

As they did back in the days of the Strategic Air Command Giant Voice bombing competitions. Whenever the Vulcans took part - they tended to win (against the B-52s and F-111s that SAC put up).

[Mr Will]

Not a picture, but very cool (or should that be hot?): F22 in Action

[Oily Nails]

Mr Will said:

Not a picture, but very cool (or should that be hot?): F22 in Action

Very nice!

[M-J-B]

Oily Nails said:

Mr Will said:

Not a picture, but very cool (or should that be hot?): F22 in Action

Very nice!

Absolutely awesome live

[Fume troll]

A heat seeking missile would never see that, eh?

Cheers,

FT.

[JonRB]

Mr Will said:

Not a picture, but very cool (or should that be hot?): F22 in Action

My current client are in the process of supporting Flir Star SAFIRE in their product. I'm looking forward to having a play with that camera system although I doubt there will be a handy F22 around to point it at.

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 29th July 12:40

[Oily Nails]

JonRB said:

Mr Will said:

Not a picture, but very cool (or should that be hot?): F22 in Action

My current client are in the process of supporting Flir Star SAFIRE in their product. I'm looking forward to having a play with that camera system although I doubt there will be a handy F22 around to point it at.

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 29th July 12:40

There is always a good looking Female in the building.....just ask her to stand in front and post the pictures

[hidetheelephants]

Oily Nails said:

JonRB said:

Mr Will said:

Not a picture, but very cool (or should that be hot?): F22 in Action

My current client are in the process of supporting Flir Star SAFIRE in their product. I'm looking forward to having a play with that camera system although I doubt there will be a handy F22 around to point it at.

Edited by JonRB on Thursday 29th July 12:40

There is always a good looking Female in the building.....just ask her to stand in front and post the pictures

This must be done in the interests of science.

[Mojocvh]

NSXKeith said:

Mojocvh said:

Eric Mc said:

Maybe, but they didn't do much as far as I am aware.

OK Eric I've had enough of it.

The contributions of the F3 fleet in the gulf have been posted here before, if you wish to ignore the efforts and sacrifices of both the air and ground staff in some some spotters w@nk fest that's up to you.

(Cue the inevitable spotters I didn't know the real story.)

For your information, Eric, Squadrons of the Royal Air Force are not presented with Battle Honours ad-hock like the Yanks.

On the instigation of Operation Desert Shield the RAF Sqdn on APC in Cyprus had 48 hours to go from gun camp to a war footing and deployment to Saudi.
They, alongside the Yanks, held the line against overwhelming odds until relieved by superior forces.
My own Sqdn was deployed to Dhahran to relieve them, ON A WAR FOOTING, expecting to be subjected to conventional, chemical, biological and even nuclear attack.
During that time the Sqn operated continuously in both the persecution of the war effort and the reinforcement of the following peace.

Fast forward to the Balkans where the deployed F3's maintained support of the air domination and in particular Intel gathering. Having been present, and witnessed, the debriefs of the F3 crews and what they had recorded and uplinked to SACSOUTH along with the frustration of their being denied permission to engage and intervene.

The Alaram mod on the OCU's aircraft used the basic airframes pure speed, RHWR, modded EECM and DATA link capabilities to the full.

So to surmise Eric, you can't make a purse etc.

However the role that was envisaged for the aircraft was to go out over the winter North Sea and intercept the carriers of nuclear armed cruise missiles before they could launch.

It was sublime in this role, as it's low level speed, maneuverability, radar and loiter was unsurpassed at the time.

With the advent of ASRAAM (and US bottom spec AMRAAM) it gained further important capabilities.

Make no mistake, it is/was an old design and suffers from it.
But if it is employed as initially designed it is/was one of the best airframes and has/had the best operators and proven tactics.

Ask the Yanks on Cape Thunder/Red-Green Flag.

Mo.

Ah good to see someone sticking up for the old birds.

I worked on F3s for 6 years with 25(F) Sqn, travelled all over the world with them and was part of Op DENY FLIGHT in the Balkans too. The F3 flights I had leaves me with a slightly softer spot for them too.

But what will always stick in my memory was when our aircrew were given a 2v4 training sortie during APC in Alaska – which they subsequently went on to win. The point being that the ‘4’ aircraft were F15s! (most of that could be down to the difference in aircrew training though – but I didn’t really say that).

Ahh great days!!!!!!!

What trade were you??

[NSXKeith]

Mojocvh said:

NSXKeith said:

Mojocvh said:

Eric Mc said:

Maybe, but they didn't do much as far as I am aware.

OK Eric I've had enough of it.

The contributions of the F3 fleet in the gulf have been posted here before, if you wish to ignore the efforts and sacrifices of both the air and ground staff in some some spotters w@nk fest that's up to you.

(Cue the inevitable spotters I didn't know the real story.)

For your information, Eric, Squadrons of the Royal Air Force are not presented with Battle Honours ad-hock like the Yanks.

On the instigation of Operation Desert Shield the RAF Sqdn on APC in Cyprus had 48 hours to go from gun camp to a war footing and deployment to Saudi.
They, alongside the Yanks, held the line against overwhelming odds until relieved by superior forces.
My own Sqdn was deployed to Dhahran to relieve them, ON A WAR FOOTING, expecting to be subjected to conventional, chemical, biological and even nuclear attack.
During that time the Sqn operated continuously in both the persecution of the war effort and the reinforcement of the following peace.

Fast forward to the Balkans where the deployed F3's maintained support of the air domination and in particular Intel gathering. Having been present, and witnessed, the debriefs of the F3 crews and what they had recorded and uplinked to SACSOUTH along with the frustration of their being denied permission to engage and intervene.

The Alaram mod on the OCU's aircraft used the basic airframes pure speed, RHWR, modded EECM and DATA link capabilities to the full.

So to surmise Eric, you can't make a purse etc.

However the role that was envisaged for the aircraft was to go out over the winter North Sea and intercept the carriers of nuclear armed cruise missiles before they could launch.

It was sublime in this role, as it's low level speed, maneuverability, radar and loiter was unsurpassed at the time.

With the advent of ASRAAM (and US bottom spec AMRAAM) it gained further important capabilities.

Make no mistake, it is/was an old design and suffers from it.
But if it is employed as initially designed it is/was one of the best airframes and has/had the best operators and proven tactics.

Ask the Yanks on Cape Thunder/Red-Green Flag.

Mo.

Ah good to see someone sticking up for the old birds.

I worked on F3s for 6 years with 25(F) Sqn, travelled all over the world with them and was part of Op DENY FLIGHT in the Balkans too. The F3 flights I had leaves me with a slightly softer spot for them too.

But what will always stick in my memory was when our aircrew were given a 2v4 training sortie during APC in Alaska – which they subsequently went on to win. The point being that the ‘4’ aircraft were F15s! (most of that could be down to the difference in aircrew training though – but I didn’t really say that).

Ahh great days!!!!!!!

What trade were you??

Avionics (still a mechanic back then) No responsibility - no money!!!!

[Mojocvh]

NSXKeith said:

Mojocvh said:

NSXKeith said:

Mojocvh said:

Eric Mc said:

Maybe, but they didn't do much as far as I am aware.

OK Eric I've had enough of it.

The contributions of the F3 fleet in the gulf have been posted here before, if you wish to ignore the efforts and sacrifices of both the air and ground staff in some some spotters w@nk fest that's up to you.

(Cue the inevitable spotters I didn't know the real story.)

For your information, Eric, Squadrons of the Royal Air Force are not presented with Battle Honours ad-hock like the Yanks.

On the instigation of Operation Desert Shield the RAF Sqdn on APC in Cyprus had 48 hours to go from gun camp to a war footing and deployment to Saudi.
They, alongside the Yanks, held the line against overwhelming odds until relieved by superior forces.
My own Sqdn was deployed to Dhahran to relieve them, ON A WAR FOOTING, expecting to be subjected to conventional, chemical, biological and even nuclear attack.
During that time the Sqn operated continuously in both the persecution of the war effort and the reinforcement of the following peace.

Fast forward to the Balkans where the deployed F3's maintained support of the air domination and in particular Intel gathering. Having been present, and witnessed, the debriefs of the F3 crews and what they had recorded and uplinked to SACSOUTH along with the frustration of their being denied permission to engage and intervene.

The Alaram mod on the OCU's aircraft used the basic airframes pure speed, RHWR, modded EECM and DATA link capabilities to the full.

So to surmise Eric, you can't make a purse etc.

However the role that was envisaged for the aircraft was to go out over the winter North Sea and intercept the carriers of nuclear armed cruise missiles before they could launch.

It was sublime in this role, as it's low level speed, maneuverability, radar and loiter was unsurpassed at the time.

With the advent of ASRAAM (and US bottom spec AMRAAM) it gained further important capabilities.

Make no mistake, it is/was an old design and suffers from it.
But if it is employed as initially designed it is/was one of the best airframes and has/had the best operators and proven tactics.

Ask the Yanks on Cape Thunder/Red-Green Flag.

Mo.

Ah good to see someone sticking up for the old birds.

I worked on F3s for 6 years with 25(F) Sqn, travelled all over the world with them and was part of Op DENY FLIGHT in the Balkans too. The F3 flights I had leaves me with a slightly softer spot for them too.

But what will always stick in my memory was when our aircrew were given a 2v4 training sortie during APC in Alaska – which they subsequently went on to win. The point being that the ‘4’ aircraft were F15s! (most of that could be down to the difference in aircrew training though – but I didn’t really say that).

Ahh great days!!!!!!!

What trade were you??

Avionics (still a mechanic back then) No responsibility - no money!!!!

OK that's good, when were you out at Gioia? our paths may have crossed. In the ferrari bar etc.

[NSXKeith]

Mojocvh said:

OK that's good, when were you out at Gioia? our paths may have crossed. In the ferrari bar etc.

Yes I was - Sept-Nov 1993, That was a long 3 months!

[Tootles the Taxi]

Eric Mc said:

That was my point. The crews exceeded the aircraft.

As they did back in the days of the Strategic Air Command Giant Voice bombing competitions. Whenever the Vulcans took part - they tended to win (against the B-52s and F-111s that SAC put up).

Somewhere in the dusty recesses of my brain I recall a TV documentary that showed how RAF Vulcans took part in either Red Flag or some other wargame exercise and it was illustrated by footage of a Vulcan at zero feet twisting and turning through a valley "somewhere in Nevada" trying to evade "enemy AAA and radar". The footage was accompanied by the comments from USAF radar techs commenting on how those RAF chaps were flying and some wag then cuts in with "... you should see it from out here, its even better"

Wish I could get hold of that clip, it was simply awesome.

[Eric Mc]

I wionder are you recalling the Buccaneer footage from the 1979 or 1980 Red Flag exercises?

[munroman]

Tootles the Taxi said:

Eric Mc said:

That was my point. The crews exceeded the aircraft.

As they did back in the days of the Strategic Air Command Giant Voice bombing competitions. Whenever the Vulcans took part - they tended to win (against the B-52s and F-111s that SAC put up).

Somewhere in the dusty recesses of my brain I recall a TV documentary that showed how RAF Vulcans took part in either Red Flag or some other wargame exercise and it was illustrated by footage of a Vulcan at zero feet twisting and turning through a valley "somewhere in Nevada" trying to evade "enemy AAA and radar". The footage was accompanied by the comments from USAF radar techs commenting on how those RAF chaps were flying and some wag then cuts in with "... you should see it from out here, its even better"

Wish I could get hold of that clip, it was simply awesome.

Was it not the case that very late in the day the USAF detected a Vulcan flying at 50ft or so, it had come in from Canada, when the USAF detected it the Vulcan pulled up and there were 2 Bucaneers underneath it!

[PaulG40]

AlexC1981 said:

I'm using this as my desktop wallpaper at the moment.

Looks like a real workhorse.

Great Pic! Right Click, Save as. Use as Wallpaper!

[left to right]

munroman said:

Tootles the Taxi said:

Eric Mc said:

That was my point. The crews exceeded the aircraft.

As they did back in the days of the Strategic Air Command Giant Voice bombing competitions. Whenever the Vulcans took part - they tended to win (against the B-52s and F-111s that SAC put up).

Somewhere in the dusty recesses of my brain I recall a TV documentary that showed how RAF Vulcans took part in either Red Flag or some other wargame exercise and it was illustrated by footage of a Vulcan at zero feet twisting and turning through a valley "somewhere in Nevada" trying to evade "enemy AAA and radar". The footage was accompanied by the comments from USAF radar techs commenting on how those RAF chaps were flying and some wag then cuts in with "... you should see it from out here, its even better"

Wish I could get hold of that clip, it was simply awesome.

Was it not the case that very late in the day the USAF detected a Vulcan flying at 50ft or so, it had come in from Canada, when the USAF detected it the Vulcan pulled up and there were 2 Bucaneers underneath it!

I was told that the vulcan was flying a commercial airliner route with 2 Bucaneers very close making it look like one radar blip

[The real Apache]

Eric Mc said:

I wionder are you recalling the Buccaneer footage from the 1979 or 1980 Red Flag exercises?

Methinks so too, the Buccs came in so fast and so low it took em by surprise

[BigS]

Not quite what you're talking about, but I did find this on the tube of you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpGhiC8i_PM&fea...