1954 Avro Shackleton Mr2
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FourWheelDrift said:
Nice pics as usual, how many litres of white paint is that now? 
As those the DC-6s in shot or are they still operating the Electras out of Coventry?
We're on just short of 30 litres of paint, a similar amount of thinners, some 300 DA sanding pads of various grades, 250 yards of 3" seconite sealing tape, 2 US gallons of nitrate dope, 2 gallons of the thinners, 5 rollers, god knows how many heads for them and same for the brushes.As those the DC-6s in shot or are they still operating the Electras out of Coventry?
We're about half way!
Two DC-6s are still at Coventry, one is active and does taxi rides, one is static only. There are still a few Electras kicking around too.
The real Apache said:
looks like she's smiling. I love the Shack, grew up with and flew in em, best looking prop job ever
I can't argue that they're not the best, I love the old thing.She IS smiling. Compare the most recent pictures to the one at the top of page one, and you'll see how far she's come in a year. The size of the team looking after her has doubled and her future is secure now the airport's safe. The fly-in a few weeks back was for Help For Heroes, and we're told WR963 raised more money than any single aircraft on the airfield.
She's coming back and she knows it.
richw_82 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Nice pics as usual, how many litres of white paint is that now?
As those the DC-6s in shot or are they still operating the Electras out of Coventry?
We're on just short of 30 litres of paint, a similar amount of thinners, some 300 DA sanding pads of various grades, 250 yards of 3" seconite sealing tape, 2 US gallons of nitrate dope, 2 gallons of the thinners, 5 rollers, god knows how many heads for them and same for the brushes.As those the DC-6s in shot or are they still operating the Electras out of Coventry?
We're about half way!
Two DC-6s are still at Coventry, one is active and does taxi rides, one is static only. There are still a few Electras kicking around too.
FourWheelDrift said:
BigS said:
Out of interest, what is the big spark plug looking thing on the top of the fuselage?
Orange Harvest ECM mast.ECM = Electronic Counter Measures. Ie Jamming/Spoofing.
ESM = Electronic Support Measures. Ie Detection/Classification.
'Orange Harvest' was the ESM kit fitted to the Shackleton and was designed to detect, and give a bearing on, X-Band and S-Band radars (the former being used by warships for things like anti aircraft fire-control and the latter for things like navigation).
ESM = Electronic Support Measures. Ie Detection/Classification.
'Orange Harvest' was the ESM kit fitted to the Shackleton and was designed to detect, and give a bearing on, X-Band and S-Band radars (the former being used by warships for things like anti aircraft fire-control and the latter for things like navigation).
I don't think so, a direction finder is navigation equipment, whereas the Orange Harvest isn't. She does carry an ADF system which works somewhere between the ranges 100KHz to 419KHz and 489 KHz to 1799KHz.
Theres also a bunch of other navigation gear onboard. By the time she finished in service she was fitted (and still is) with a radar altimeter, ILS, and a few other goodies, all to let the old Shacklebomber do its AEW job in any conditions.
Theres also a bunch of other navigation gear onboard. By the time she finished in service she was fitted (and still is) with a radar altimeter, ILS, and a few other goodies, all to let the old Shacklebomber do its AEW job in any conditions.
Huff Duff is a form of RDF (Radio Direction Finding) using HF Radio.
HF Radio is the band between 3.0 - 30.0 MHz.
S-Band is the band 2.0 to 4.0 GHz.
X-Band is the band 7.0 to 11.2 GHz.
The later 2 are in the centrimetric (short wave radar) bands.
While the theory is similar to DF/HFDF the application is very different.
Orange Harvest worked in the centrimetric range for detecting and classifying enemy radars, not for DFing radio/HF radio transmissions.
Having said that, I am told it only worked well if there was a a following wind on a good day!
HF Radio is the band between 3.0 - 30.0 MHz.
S-Band is the band 2.0 to 4.0 GHz.
X-Band is the band 7.0 to 11.2 GHz.
The later 2 are in the centrimetric (short wave radar) bands.
While the theory is similar to DF/HFDF the application is very different.
Orange Harvest worked in the centrimetric range for detecting and classifying enemy radars, not for DFing radio/HF radio transmissions.
Having said that, I am told it only worked well if there was a a following wind on a good day!
Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Friday 15th October 22:49
perdu said:
Awww
I always thought it was an auxiliary spark plug, just in case they needed a high(er) energy-source spark in thicko fog...
derrrr!
oh well back to rewiring the Midget
It always gave the Shackleton a vaguely Victorian look.I always thought it was an auxiliary spark plug, just in case they needed a high(er) energy-source spark in thicko fog...
derrrr!
oh well back to rewiring the Midget
I've always had a soft spot for aircraft called after Irishmen (Shackleton, Wellington, Wellesley etc).
Eric Mc said:
perdu said:
Awww
I always thought it was an auxiliary spark plug, just in case they needed a high(er) energy-source spark in thicko fog...
derrrr!
oh well back to rewiring the Midget
It always gave the Shackleton a vaguely Victorian look.I always thought it was an auxiliary spark plug, just in case they needed a high(er) energy-source spark in thicko fog...
derrrr!
oh well back to rewiring the Midget
Eric Mc said:
I've always had a soft spot for aircraft called after Irishmen (Shackleton, Wellington, Wellesley etc).
Completely off topic, but I'm reading "South: The story of Shackleton's 1914–17 expedition" at the moment, impressive stuff and I've only got as far as them spending the winter trapped in the ice.Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff