Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

[2013BRM]

MartG said:

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

Steve_D said:

Damage to the roof is a bit odd. Did the pilot eject through it? Cripes!!!

Steve

I doubt it. The Hunter was fitted with a 0-90 seat ie it would get you out on the ground but not below a forward speed of 90kts.

Allegedly the groundcrew guy in the seat was killed when it fired after part of the roof hit the top of the seat and triggered the firing pin

unlikely as (if memory serves) there are 2 one in the top and one between his legs

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hunter+ejection+...

Edited by 2013BRM on Thursday 22 May 15:57

[Dr Jekyll]

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

I doubt it. The Hunter was fitted with a 0-90 seat ie it would get you out on the ground but not below a forward speed of 90kts.

Not get you out at all or not open the chute fully?

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

Dr Jekyll said:

Not get you out at all or not open the chute fully?

Not deploy the 'chute fully and not result in seat separation.

The early seats were 'gun' seats. Basically there is a tube with three cartridges in it, pull the handle the cartridges fire in sequence and the resultant expanding gasses blow the seat out of the a/c. It takes a finite time for the automatics to operate (drogue gun, seat separation, full canopy deployment). If the drogue gun fires into a 90kt wind then (effectively) there is more time available for seat separation and canopy deployment.

Later zero-zero seats (zero height, zero speed), aside from having faster automatics (gas operated as opposed to trip rod operated) have a rocket pack on the bottom of the seat in addition to the normal 'ejection gun' of the earlier seats. Thus the ejectee reaches a higher apogee post ejection thus giving the systems more time in which to act.



In the above case, if the seat was initiated by debris from the roof falling on the Face-Screen (top) Handle then the chances are the guy would have still been in the seat when it hit the ground (if he was strapped in of course). For the seat to have been initiated in this way would (IMHO) indicate that the seat had been left in an unsafe condition (ie the pins hadn't been fitted). With bang seats, before you climb onto one, you make damn sure the seat is 'Safe for Parking'. In the case of a Hunter seat that would be: Seat-Pan Handle Pin, Face-Screen Handle Pin, and Guillotine Sear Pin (Manual Separation Lever) all fitted. Additionally you'd check that the Canopy Release Firing Handle Pin was fitted.

Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Thursday 22 May 16:42

[Blib]

[MartG]

2013BRM said:

MartG said:

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

Steve_D said:

Damage to the roof is a bit odd. Did the pilot eject through it? Cripes!!!

Steve

I doubt it. The Hunter was fitted with a 0-90 seat ie it would get you out on the ground but not below a forward speed of 90kts.

Allegedly the groundcrew guy in the seat was killed when it fired after part of the roof hit the top of the seat and triggered the firing pin

unlikely as (if memory serves) there are 2 one in the top and one between his legs

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hunter+ejection+...

Edited by 2013BRM on Thursday 22 May 15:57

Either one of which could fire the seat

[Ayahuasca]

[D_T_W]

Shar2 said:

Eric Mc said:

Two can play that game -

We've got the back end of that in our storage car park having used it for structural training, corrosion control and NDT work.

I used to work on it, whilst I'm sure they were excellent aircraft when they were made, by the time Ryanair got their hands on them they were past their best, I think they'd been using them for years before I joined and started to fly on them. The worst of the bunch was EI-COA, one of the last ones to still be in the Ryanair colour scheme, that and the Hertz liveried aircraft you were always guaranteed an eventful day!!

[MartG]

Update Re the Hunter pic. The Pilot was NOT killed. he was hurt but survived.
13/11/1969 XF297 BY-738 Hunter GA11 738 NAS Jumped the wheel chocks during full power engine checks at Brawdy, Pembrokeshire and ran into the 738 NAS office block. The pilot was seriously injured. After being extricated it was struck off charge and stripped for spares


http://www.ukserials.com/losses-1969.htm

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

I would very much doubt it was a Pilot doing static full power checks but a Techie.

[Shar2]

D_T_W said:

Shar2 said:

Eric Mc said:

Two can play that game -

We've got the back end of that in our storage car park having used it for structural training, corrosion control and NDT work.

I used to work on it, whilst I'm sure they were excellent aircraft when they were made, by the time Ryanair got their hands on them they were past their best, I think they'd been using them for years before I joined and started to fly on them. The worst of the bunch was EI-COA, one of the last ones to still be in the Ryanair colour scheme, that and the Hertz liveried aircraft you were always guaranteed an eventful day!!

I believe the front end has been turned into some sort of simulator and resides somewhere in East Sussex.

[2013BRM]

MartG said:

2013BRM said:

MartG said:

Ginetta G15 Girl said:

Steve_D said:

Damage to the roof is a bit odd. Did the pilot eject through it? Cripes!!!

Steve

I doubt it. The Hunter was fitted with a 0-90 seat ie it would get you out on the ground but not below a forward speed of 90kts.

Allegedly the groundcrew guy in the seat was killed when it fired after part of the roof hit the top of the seat and triggered the firing pin

unlikely as (if memory serves) there are 2 one in the top and one between his legs

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hunter+ejection+...

Edited by 2013BRM on Thursday 22 May 15:57

Either one of which could fire the seat

duh, my bad

[irocfan]

can I just leave this on here - it IS an advert (for Breitling) but the photography of the Mustang and Corsair... wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVAEbMcQ-t8

[Mini1275]

[jonny142]

Mini1275 said:

Black Buck build up i'd guess

[jonny142]

Panther Flight by jonnyweb142, on Flickr
_DSC1519-2 by jonnyweb142, on Flickr
Panther Flight by jonnyweb142, on Flickr
Panther Flight pulling out of LL by jonnyweb142, on Flickr
_DSC1546 by jonnyweb142, on Flickr

[jonny142]

[quote=lloyd h] RAF Merlin HC3 by lloydh.co.uk, on Flickr

Superb Mate,the lowest helo i've personally seen there Lloyd,i was down at Corris,did'nt shoot it ,great to see so low and not behind a view finder for a change !..(The video from where you were is bonkers)

Edited by jonny142 on Saturday 24th May 01:22

[Ayahuasca]

jonny142 said:

Mini1275 said:

Black Buck build up i'd guess

You are wide awake!

[Z06George]

Damn the F-15 looks good, top work!

[enjo]

Those F-15 pics are stunning, great work.

[Mutley]

Some from Duxford yesterday:
Typhoon formating with the BBMF's PRXIX


Formation of C47s


Sally B flying over the recently restored Union Jack Dak