Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)
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Dr Jekyll said:
Andy Zarse said:
Dr Jekyll said:
We also used a .22 with a Martini action, don't know how common they were in ATC circles.
What century are we talking about? 
Lee Enfields and one Martini 22. Lee Enfield 303s and on a camp Browning (I think) 22 automatic pistols.
Video clip of a crosswind landing at Leeds today - a bit breezy
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4bf_1420820439
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4bf_1420820439
yellowjack said:
[geek mode]Can't be a Falklands mod That's a Bren, in the true sense of it being the curved magazine and conical flash eliminator original 1930s designed .303" (rimmed) cartridge version license produced in UK. In the 1950s a large number of true 'Bren' guns were converted to fire the standard NATO 7.62×51mm rimless cartridge, with a slotted flash eliminator similar to the L1A1 SLR and a magazine with significantly less 'curve' to it which was interchangeable with the magazine from the SLR These were designated L4 Light Machine Gun. They certainly wouldn't have taken an original .303 Bren to the Falklands in 1982 - there'd have been no bullets for it, silly![/geek mode]
What plane is it vulcan? That's a Bren, in the true sense of it being the curved magazine and conical flash eliminator original 1930s designed .303" (rimmed) cartridge version license produced in UK. In the 1950s a large number of true 'Bren' guns were converted to fire the standard NATO 7.62×51mm rimless cartridge, with a slotted flash eliminator similar to the L1A1 SLR and a magazine with significantly less 'curve' to it which was interchangeable with the magazine from the SLR These were designated L4 Light Machine Gun. They certainly wouldn't have taken an original .303 Bren to the Falklands in 1982 - there'd have been no bullets for it, silly![/geek mode] Dr Jekyll said:
Andy Zarse said:
Dr Jekyll said:
We also used a .22 with a Martini action, don't know how common they were in ATC circles.
What century are we talking about? Lee Enfields and one Martini 22. Lee Enfield 303s and on a camp Browning (I think) 22 automatic pistols.
..and before anyone complains about non aviation content it was at a target towed by a Canberra, ok/
Edited by Mojocvh on Sunday 11th January 13:21
ApOrbital said:
Thanks never knew they had gunners.
At the risk of a parrot for me, and for the benefit of those who don't know, I'll bite...
...a couple of years ago, XH558 tried to stop after her Saturday display at Farnborough without deploying the brake 'chute. The resultant failure of the hydraulic braking system (and Marshalls alleged inability/refusal to repair it at the weekend) cost them the display on the Sunday. Whisper it, but the intention had been to hold her at a high angle to the wind, in order to save the cost of deploying the parachute, using the massive delta as one big air brake, assisted by the hydraulic units on the main gear. 'Twas a sad sight, watching the tug tow her off the runway at the end of the day, and there was a great deal of chuntering from elements of Sunday's crowd, some of whom naively (and again, allegedly) tried to get refunds because the Vulcan wasn't displaying.
Total loss said:
yellowjack said:
but the intention had been to hold her at a high angle to the wind, in order to save the cost of deploying the parachute,
in 2013 the Bournemouth Daily Echo said:
Even her 60-foot brake parachute – used to splendid effect when she lands at Bournemouth International – costs £1,000 a pop because it has to be painstakingly re-folded by hand.
http://m.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10642279.Vulca...meet_the_couple_helping_to_keep_the_much_loved_aircraft_in_the_skies/?ref=mac
http://m.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10642279.Vulca...meet_the_couple_helping_to_keep_the_much_loved_aircraft_in_the_skies/?ref=mac
in 2010 the Daily Mail said:
In addition, all 33 onboard fire extinguishers have to be upgraded at a cost of £33,000, and the brake parachutes need to be replaced at a cost of £54,000.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243857/Wo...
The braking parachute is a flight safety critical item. The old bird can't go up without it. And it's a 'lifed' item too, so it has to be replaced when it's timed operational life is up.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243857/Wo...
The old bits they take off '558 are often sold, auctioned, or raffled, if they cannot be refurbished or 're-lifed', thereby raising vital funds to keep her flying. Whilst these funds are welcome, I don't think they bring in anywhere near what they actually cost to produce/buy.
ETA: There's some speculation as to cost breakdown for the braking parachute on this forum... http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?1312... ...but you'll have to scroll down more than half way to get the figures.
Edited by yellowjack on Monday 12th January 22:44
yellowjack said:
Total loss said:
yellowjack said:
but the intention had been to hold her at a high angle to the wind, in order to save the cost of deploying the parachute,
in 2013 the Bournemouth Daily Echo said:
Even her 60-foot brake parachute – used to splendid effect when she lands at Bournemouth International – costs £1,000 a pop because it has to be painstakingly re-folded by hand.
http://m.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10642279.Vulca...meet_the_couple_helping_to_keep_the_much_loved_aircraft_in_the_skies/?ref=mac
http://m.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/10642279.Vulca...meet_the_couple_helping_to_keep_the_much_loved_aircraft_in_the_skies/?ref=mac
in 2010 the Daily Mail said:
In addition, all 33 onboard fire extinguishers have to be upgraded at a cost of £33,000, and the brake parachutes need to be replaced at a cost of £54,000.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243857/Wo...
The braking parachute is a flight safety critical item. The old bird can't go up without it. And it's a 'lifed' item too, so it has to be replaced when it's timed operational life is up.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243857/Wo...
The old bits they take off '558 are often sold, auctioned, or raffled, if they cannot be refurbished or 're-lifed', thereby raising vital funds to keep her flying. Whilst these funds are welcome, I don't think they bring in anywhere near what they actually cost to produce/buy.
ETA: There's some speculation as to cost breakdown for the braking parachute on this forum... http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?1312... ...but you'll have to scroll down more than half way to get the figures.
Haven't posted anything here in a while..
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