Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

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jimmyjimjim

7,340 posts

238 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Some digging around seems to imply that it had been shot down and already hit the sea and bounced before hitting the Sussex.

Presumably this removed most of the speed and momentum from the impact...which would also have been into her armour belt.

JuniorD

8,626 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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jimmyjimjim said:
Some digging around seems to imply that it had been shot down and already hit the sea and bounced before hitting the Sussex.

Presumably this removed most of the speed and momentum from the impact...which would also have been into her armour belt.
It almost looks like the only thing that hit the carrier was the dirt that was previously on the forward facing surfaces of the aircraft. For both wings to make contact along their lengths with the carrier I would have expected the nose of the aircraft to have penetrated the hull at least.

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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It's what happens when a flimsy aircraft hits 4.5" of armour belt.

There is a dent in the middle and it did suffer structural damage inside.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
It's what happens when a flimsy aircraft hits 4.5" of armour belt.

There is a dent in the middle and it did suffer structural damage inside.
Indeed, the IJN/IJA aircraft of the time were seldom armoured (there were a few exceptions later in the war), the vast majority of the aircraft were lightly built giving aircraft like the A6M Zero excellent manoeuvrability climb rates, and long endurance at economy cruise power settings, but providing little protection for crews. Imagine it crumpling like a paper bag when it hit the side of the ship and you probably wouldn't be far wrong.

I remember a few years ago seeing a Zero awaiting or in the early stages of restoration (might be well on the way by now) in the restoration hall at Duxford, and the thickness (or lack of it) of the metal on the aircraft was noticeable in comparison to US and European aircraft of the time.

blueg33

35,894 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Took my kids around the RAF museum at Cosford last week. My daughter asked a question that I couldn't answer. In her words the question was

"Why do lots of the jets have a long point sticking out at the front?"

Please could someone answer the question

Its been years since I have been to Cosford and I was impressed but disappointed that they don't have a Jaguar, Tornado and a Phantom.

PRTVR

7,102 posts

221 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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It's a pitot tube , air speed indicator , I think I read that cosford were having major changes to the display hangers, maybe they have removed some to give a balanced display.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Pitot tube for measuring Dynamic Air Pressure. From this you can derive Indicated Air Speed.

The reason it sticks out the front on Fast Jets is to keep it out of the Transonic Shockwave.

blueg33

35,894 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Pitot tube for measuring Dynamic Air Pressure. From this you can derive Indicated Air Speed.

The reason it sticks out the front on Fast Jets is to keep it out of the Transonic Shockwave.
Thanks, I thought it was a pitot tube, but couldn't work out why it needed to stick out.


MartG

20,677 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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JuniorD said:
MartG said:
Not exactly a picture of an aircraft....




Two extraordinary photos of the imprint a kamikaze attack left on the hull of the HMS Sussex. The imprint perfectly resembles the Mitsubishi Ki-51 "Sonia" attack bomber of the Japanese Army Air Force, an aircraft usually mistaken for the Japanese Navy's Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber. If you look carefully you can even see the position of the wing gun and landing light, which the "Val" didn't have.

Photo credit Ronnie Olsthoorn
Am amazed that there wasn't more damage to the hull, in fact there is nothing but a dirty imprint. Strange.
I suspect the explosives didn't detonate - though Sussex's hull armour was up to 4.5 inches thick !

MartG

20,677 posts

204 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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Beautiful pic of Soyuz TMA-16M landing yesterday



Photo Credit: (NASA/Bill Ingalls)

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Saturday 12th September 2015
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Wokka scaring the livestock in Northumberland.

hammo19

4,989 posts

196 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Sunday 13th September 2015
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MartG said:
Beautiful pic of Soyuz TMA-16M landing yesterday



Photo Credit: (NASA/Bill Ingalls)
They put so much faith in one chute.

Collectingbrass

2,211 posts

195 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Eric Mc said:
MartG said:
Beautiful pic of Soyuz TMA-16M landing yesterday



Photo Credit: (NASA/Bill Ingalls)
They put so much faith in one chute.
Wasn't this the same space agency that sent pencils in place of bespoke space rated pens developed at a cost of $billions? (I know, but I still like the story)

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Simple answer - no.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Eric Mc said:
They put so much faith in one chute.
What you can't see are the other three chutes that failed to open.

wink

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
They put so much faith in one chute.
What you can't see are the other three chutes that failed to open.

wink
Only three? wink

MartG

20,677 posts

204 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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"I said turn left, not right !"


IroningMan

10,154 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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Vigilante - lovely looking thing.

Caruso

7,436 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th September 2015
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MartG said:
"I said turn left, not right !"

Boldy going where no man has gone before!

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