Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

[ATTAK Z]

Mutley said:

irocfan said:

mcdjl said:

tight5 said:

saw this on twitter today -

Photoshop I assume since it wasn't taken at Waddington which would have been the most likely / only(?) opportunity to get something like that.

could have been taken at Southend too

Not Southend, too many trees, not enough buildings. Good as the image is, is a shop

and if it's supposed to be a take off, why has Vulcan got its air brakes deployed

[irocfan]

ATTAK Z said:

Mutley said:

irocfan said:

mcdjl said:

tight5 said:

saw this on twitter today -

Photoshop I assume since it wasn't taken at Waddington which would have been the most likely / only(?) opportunity to get something like that.

could have been taken at Southend too

Not Southend, too many trees, not enough buildings. Good as the image is, is a shop

and if it's supposed to be a take off, why has Vulcan got its air brakes deployed

part of a warm-up and trot down the runway exercise while showing off various do-dahs the Vulcan has?

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

[RedLeicester]

250ft my arse

[CobolMan]

TomJackUK said:

A few from my Dads log book

I've got some scans of slides of the JP and Gannet AEW3 that my old man took back in the '60s. Was your dad on 849B TomJackUK?

[TomJackUK]

That's right Cobol. He was 849B from '74 until '77. Towards the end of that period he was the QFI and had trained every member of the squadron. Check out the XT752 Facebook page if you haven't already seen it :-)

[CobolMan]

Nice one, my old man was 849B from 66 to 68. Have you seen the XL500 blog?

[TomJackUK]

I knew of the restoration but haven't seen any recent updates. Looks like nothing recent on that link unless I am being stupid?

[MartG]

Here's a rare one - Using 13 surplus DHC Herons, Saunders created a conversion with some engineering input from Aviation Traders (Engineering). The remanufactured design was based on a stretched fuselage to accommodate 23 passengers, a lengthened nose to fit a radar, reshaped vertical tail (also increased in size) and two Pratt and Whitney PT6A turboprops replacing the original four Gipsy Queen piston engines, along with other minor changes. All of the aircraft's systems, including the brakes were pneumatic with the exception of the windshield wipers which were hydraulic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saunders_ST-27






They also tried to manufacture new build aircraft - the ST-28 - but ran out of money

Edited by MartG on Sunday 4th January 21:14

[Andy Zarse]

It's got more than a bit of the Bae Jetstream about it, which obviously came much later. Any connections between the two?

[Dr Jekyll]

The Jetstream came slightly earlier, but they certainly appeared to be aimed at much the same market.

[Andy Zarse]

Dr Jekyll said:

The Jetstream came slightly earlier, but they certainly appeared to be aimed at much the same market.

You know, I never knew that. I always thought of it as a relatively modern aircraft.

[Eric Mc]

The Jetstream first flew in 1967.

The ST-27 flew around 1969 - but it was based on the Heron, which dates back to the very early 1950s.

[yellowjack]

Dr Jekyll said:

Eric Mc said:

Was that a special Falklands War mod?

[geek mode]Can't be a Falklands mod That's a Bren, in the true sense of it being the curved magazine and conical flash eliminator original 1930s designed .303" (rimmed) cartridge version license produced in UK. In the 1950s a large number of true 'Bren' guns were converted to fire the standard NATO 7.62×51mm rimless cartridge, with a slotted flash eliminator similar to the L1A1 SLR and a magazine with significantly less 'curve' to it which was interchangeable with the magazine from the SLR These were designated L4 Light Machine Gun. They certainly wouldn't have taken an original .303 Bren to the Falklands in 1982 - there'd have been no bullets for it, silly![/geek mode]

[Eric Mc]

They could have used the position to make rude gestures at any pursuing Argie Mirages. That would have scared them off.

[Andy Zarse]

yellowjack said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Eric Mc said:

Was that a special Falklands War mod?

[geek mode]Can't be a Falklands mod That's a Bren, in the true sense of it being the curved magazine and conical flash eliminator original 1930s designed .303" (rimmed) cartridge version license produced in UK. In the 1950s a large number of true 'Bren' guns were converted to fire the standard NATO 7.62×51mm rimless cartridge, with a slotted flash eliminator similar to the L1A1 SLR and a magazine with significantly less 'curve' to it which was interchangeable with the magazine from the SLR These were designated L4 Light Machine Gun. They certainly wouldn't have taken an original .303 Bren to the Falklands in 1982 - there'd have been no bullets for it, silly![/geek mode]

There were planty of .303 rounds in existence in the early Eighties. The CCF and Cadets had loads of them, we literally couldn't use enough.

[yellowjack]

Andy Zarse said:

There were planty of .303 rounds in existence in the early Eighties. The CCF and Cadets had loads of them, we literally couldn't use enough.

In existence? Maybe. But on ships, headed for the South Atlantic? No chance.

In 1957, the L1A1 SLR had replaced the .303" Lee-Enfield as the standard service rifle in the British Army. Some .303" No4Mk1 Enfields had soldiered on in the sniper rifle role, but the L42A1 was in service by 1970, a rebarreled Enfield, also chambering the 7.62x51mm NATO round. So whilst cadets at the time may have been busy converting stloads of .303" ammo into brass, I seriously doubt there was any in use in the regular army of the time. Certainly, by '86, when I joined, there was no teaching of .303" weapons systems, nor any rifles of that calibre in any armoury I ever saw, save for a few 'privately owned' Lee-Enfields.

[Andy Zarse]

Indeed, it's just you implied there weren't any .303 bullets for them, which there were, AFAICR held at COD Donnington. We weren't allowed to keep anything more than .22 rimfire in our armoury in case the IRA got in. But there was never a shortage on the ranges though. When we went anywhere fancy like Sennybridge it was all 7.62 and their weapons, usually a GPMG happy days!

[eccles]

yellowjack said:

Andy Zarse said:

There were planty of .303 rounds in existence in the early Eighties. The CCF and Cadets had loads of them, we literally couldn't use enough.

In existence? Maybe. But on ships, headed for the South Atlantic? No chance.

In 1957, the L1A1 SLR had replaced the .303" Lee-Enfield as the standard service rifle in the British Army. Some .303" No4Mk1 Enfields had soldiered on in the sniper rifle role, but the L42A1 was in service by 1970, a rebarreled Enfield, also chambering the 7.62x51mm NATO round. So whilst cadets at the time may have been busy converting stloads of .303" ammo into brass, I seriously doubt there was any in use in the regular army of the time. Certainly, by '86, when I joined, there was no teaching of .303" weapons systems, nor any rifles of that calibre in any armoury I ever saw, save for a few 'privately owned' Lee-Enfields.

I joined the Air Cadets a little under age (I was still 12!) in 1979 and my first weekend away at 'camp' was down near Tenby in West Wales at Penally. I ended up firing 90 rounds of .303 as they were burning them off. Could barely move my shoulder back in school on the Monday!

[perdu]

I wonder how many of us learned the secret pleasures of "A whiff of cordite and warmly bruised shoulders firing 0.303" in the Cadets?

I gained my first Range Officer's certificate for the No4 rifle and the 0.22" cadet rifles back in the very early seventies

Happy days for sure