Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

Post amazingly cool pictures of aircraft (Volume 2)

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Dr Jekyll

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Might this one have worked?

MartG

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Cross range issues would also be a lot less of an issue because the accuracy of re-entry would now be very precise with no need to refine the approach to landing by gliding left or right of the initial re-entry trajectory.
The crossrange requirement was driven by the USAF desire to be able to return to the launch site after a single polar orbit when launched from Vandenberg - due to the rotation of the Earth during the time the Shuttle would be in space this worked out to around 1000 miles crossrange capability

Eric Mc

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Yes - something NASA had no need of at all.

Eric Mc

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
Might this one have worked?
Probably not - knowing now the issues of having orbital craft mated side by side with the booster elements. An awful lot of the problems associated with the Shuttle Orbiter would not have arisen if it had been possible to mount it on top of its booster rather than mated parallel to it.

The reusable space plane idea is not dead. Indeed, there is currently an orbital space plane in use (the X-
37) but the X-37 and any other future orbital space planes will sit on top of their boosters, not mounted on the side.

MartG

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Eric Mc said:
The reusable space plane idea is not dead. Indeed, there is currently an orbital space plane in use (the X-
37) but the X-37 and any other future orbital space planes will sit on top of their boosters, not mounted on the side.
I wonder how long it will be before we see an X-37-like spaceplane on top of a recoverable booster like Falcon 9 to create a fully reuseable system.

I know SpaceX intend to eventually land the Dragon back on land, but I suspect astronauts would prefer to glide back to land rather than rely on a suicide burn

Eric Mc

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Monday 30th January 2017
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Couldn't SpaceX combine a parchute recovery with a rocket assisted landing - kind of like Soyuz?

MartG

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Monday 30th January 2017
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With parachutes you are always going to be at the mercy of the wind when it comes to landing at a precise location, whereas wings or a powered landing can deliver you to an exact place

jmorgan

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Monday 30th January 2017
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But it is added mass and complexity?

tight5

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Tuesday 31st January 2017
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The hail in eastern Colorado damaged nose of this A320.
Pilots made a landing with limited visibility because of major cracks in the windshield.

hidetheelephants

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Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Remarkable how little damage there is to the leading edge of the wing and engine nacelle compared to the pasting received by the nosecone and windscreens.

tight5

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Wednesday 1st February 2017
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cool

Ayahuasca

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Brothers from a different mother


CrutyRammers

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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tight5 said:


The hail in eastern Colorado damaged nose of this A320.
Pilots made a landing with limited visibility because of major cracks in the windshield.
Blimey!

MartG

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Brothers from a different mother

Technically from the same mother - LTV wink

FourWheelDrift

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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"However, the aircraft did possess some amazing capabilities, as proved when several Crusader pilots took off with the wings folded. One of these episodes took place on 23 August 1960; a Crusader with the wings folded took off from Napoli Capodichino in full afterburner, climbed to 5,000 ft (1,500 m) and then returned to land successfully. The pilot, absentminded but evidently a good "stick man," complained that the control forces were higher than normal. The Crusader was capable of flying in this state, though the pilot would be required to reduce aircraft weight by ejecting stores and fuel before landing. In all, 1,261 Crusaders were built. By the time it was withdrawn from the fleet, 1,106 had been involved in mishaps"


LotusOmega375D

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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That's amazing (and rather worrying...)

How did the Crusader fare in combat?

Stickyfinger

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Eric Mc

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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LotusOmega375D said:
That's amazing (and rather worrying...)

How did the Crusader fare in combat?
It was highly regarded by those who flew it. The US Navy were less keen on it because of its single engine - which is why the Phantom was preferred. It was also planned that the Crusader would be the last gun equipped fighter with the US Navy. As it turned, that wasn't actually what happened.

Z06George

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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I may have posted these in volume 1 but as someone brought A7s into this...



LotusOmega375D

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Thursday 2nd February 2017
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Some more Air National Guard Corsairs



These ANG ones used to visit Cottesmore for exercises in the late 1970s / early 1980s.


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