how much to wet lease an A380?

how much to wet lease an A380?

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uk_vette

3,336 posts

204 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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I go back to my earlier post about weight.
The sensible thing is to tell all the pax, the strict limit on baggage.
Baggage can be up to 30% of the avarage passengers weight.
eg, 23gk in the hold
and 7kg in the overhead.
Then we got 30kg, if the average pax is 90kg
(what is the average weight the airlines use per pax )

If your just visiting family for 2 weeks or 3 weeks, then you can carry a lot of clothes for a 10kg limit.

500 pax, just carry 10kg instaed of 30kg, and you have saved 10 tones.

'vette

motomk

2,150 posts

244 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Chuck328 said:
IIRC BA managed a one off London to Sydney years back using a 747-400. However to do that the payload was limited to 20 pax. Not sure what the 777 LR or 340-500 can do in that respect but I'd stab a guess at a limited payload there as well.
It was a Qantas 747-400. It had to use special fuel and the 20 passengers as you have mentioned. I have read the B777LR could get to Perth non-stop from London without payload issues. Not sure on the A340-500.

JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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motomk said:
Chuck328 said:
IIRC BA managed a one off London to Sydney years back using a 747-400. However to do that the payload was limited to 20 pax. Not sure what the 777 LR or 340-500 can do in that respect but I'd stab a guess at a limited payload there as well.
It was a Qantas 747-400. It had to use
special fuel and the 20 passengers as you have mentioned. I have read the B777LR could get to Perth non-stop from London without payload issues. Not sure on the A340-500.
Didn,t Lufthansa run a direct scheduled flight from Frankfurt to Sydney in the 1990s? 17 - 18 hours non stop or something. This may be a figment of my imagination.

Shua

1 posts

159 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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This has taken a good part of my Sunday to read and I've loved it, having dreamed of starting my own airline too.

I agree about the weight restrictions. I think passengers should pay for what they weigh (I can say that as I'm only 9stone).

I don't think a small child with very little baggage should pay the same as a 25 stone adult with the maximum baggage allowance. Weighing all the passengers is rather personal, but there's not much any of us can hide at airports now with body scanners and allows the pilots to calculate exactly how much fuel will be needed.

This approach is likely to attract a young, slim, backpacker crowd but that will surely help achieve the aim of making it to Australia without stopping?

I don't have anything against people larger than myself and agree that it's not always their choice to be bigger but your 'fare should be fair'.

shakotan

10,690 posts

196 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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JuniorD said:
Didn,t Lufthansa run a direct scheduled flight from Frankfurt to Sydney in the 1990s? 17 - 18 hours non stop or something. This may be a figment of my imagination.
Singapore Airlines Flight 21 flies from New York Liberty to Singapore Changi.

Total flight time 18.5 hours non-stop, covering 10,000 miles.

Aircraft is an A340-500.

Whilst originally being a 181-seat combined Business Class/Economy configuration, it was changed in 2008 to a 100-seat all Business Class flight.


Edited by shakotan on Sunday 30th January 18:05

TVR1

Original Poster:

5,463 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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uk_vette said:
steedy27 said:
I would love to put £50 or something towards this as would be so funny if it did actually come true even though the £50 would get you nowhere!
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Don't be tight,
I will stand a £500 and buy the first seat.

'vette
Still got your £500?

Just asking.

1st seat may, perhaps, be available soon.

hidetheelephants

24,271 posts

193 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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TVR1 said:
1st seat may, perhaps, be available soon.
Whoohoo! You get there faster with PH.



Simpo Two

85,390 posts

265 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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PistonHeads Airways.

My god, this could be the new Virgin.

bluesatin

3,114 posts

272 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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PistonHeads Airways

Inflight meal- Pies!

tonyvid

9,869 posts

243 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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Simpo Two said:
PistonHeads Airways.

My god, this could be the new Virgin.
Their pilots might all be jumping ship soon! scratchchin

maffski

1,868 posts

159 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
Whoohoo! You get there faster with PH.


Pa, that's not very PH is it. You should have a flight of these:


Two seater, open top. The MX-5 of the air

Simpo Two

85,390 posts

265 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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bluesatin said:
PistonHeads Airways

Inflight meal- Pies!
Provided by the Food & Drink Forum. Yes, it's all fitting together nuts

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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maffski said:
hidetheelephants said:
Whoohoo! You get there faster with PH.


Pa, that's not very PH is it. You should have a flight of these:


Two seater, open top. The MX-5 of the air
clap excellent!

hidetheelephants

24,271 posts

193 months

Friday 24th June 2011
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maffski said:
hidetheelephants said:
Whoohoo! You get there faster with PH.


Pa, that's not very PH is it. You should have a flight of these:


Two seater, open top. The MX-5 of the air
My A380 is really PH; all the other more sedate airlines have dull 4 engine airliners, this has 6 RR Trents FTW. Think of it as the Audi RS6 of the skies.

maffski

1,868 posts

159 months

Saturday 25th June 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
My A380 is really PH; all the other more sedate airlines have dull 4 engine airliners, this has 6 RR Trents FTW. Think of it as the Audi RS6 of the skies.
OK, I'll give you that, yours is a kind of a V6. But it runs on jet fuel, which is basically diesel. Where as mines a rotary (well, radial, almost the same; OK it isn't) and runs on petrol.

Plus, mine actually has pistons.... smile, although to be fair it might not make it all the way to Austrailia (but it should do, it's down hill all the way isn't it?). In fact if you go on mine I'd probably insist on payment on arival - I'd hate to be dead and have paid for the priviledge. So actually, having thought about it. Can I have a seat on yours?

hidetheelephants

24,271 posts

193 months

Sunday 26th June 2011
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Simpo Two said:
bluesatin said:
PistonHeads Airways

Inflight meal- Pies!
Provided by the Food & Drink Forum. Yes, it's all fitting together nuts
And the Dirty Take Away thread! Kebabs! Curry! lick

Plane might smell pretty bad afterwards though, and we'd need special lavvys with refrigerators for the comfybum.

Seany88

1,245 posts

220 months

Wednesday 29th June 2011
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TVR1 said:
Still got your £500?

Just asking.

1st seat may, perhaps, be available soon.
I'll take you up on the second seat smile (FYI I weigh 80kg)

Genuinely interested in this, know nothing about planes though a good friend used to deal with private plane chartering but recently read Branson's autobiography and was an interesting read. I'd love to see this happen!

ausflyer

1 posts

148 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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TVR1 said:
Still got your £500?

Just asking.

1st seat may, perhaps, be available soon.
So??? did you manage it.

hidetheelephants

24,271 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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ausflyer said:
So??? did you manage it.
You signed up to PH for this?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
Whoohoo! You get there faster with PH.


That's been photoshopped. No way that logo's on a real one.