how much to wet lease an A380?
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-Z- said:
Simpo Two said:
Oil, my friend, oil. Where else do you think all that money came from?
Well that kinda happens with, you know, economies. We buy stuff from them, they buy shiny things from us. The same way that I help pay for Air Force One. I buy shiny things from Apple, Apple pays tax to the US Govt etc etc. Simple concept really......I'm happy to help Queen Liz pay for a plane, but not so keen paying for on Sheik Abdul Bin Wotsit.
Anyway, back to the plot:
uk_vette said:
I couldn't possibly comment, at this stage.However, I would be setting aside that £500 you know, just in case you may need it at some point in the near future
Edited by TVR1 on Monday 24th January 21:21
uk_vette said:
All the way to Australia...that would be my idea of hell. 3000 mile range, so if you flew out of Manston you'd need to stop in Basrah, Rangoon, and then Broome, WA. I wonder how many people would jump ship at each fuel stop?
OK, I didn't know the 737 had such short range.
Aircraft Wet Lease-737-800 189 Y
I suppose for what Ryanair use them, they are most suitable aroung Europe.
OK, forget the 737, just too short a range.
With an A380, is the intention to fly non-stop to AUS ?
Is it possible
Can any aircraft carry enough fuel?
Would it be worth it to carry so much fuel, ?
or like the F1 cars, just carry enough for a 1-stop stratergy ?
I am very interested.
After AUS, where are we going next ?
Montreal?
Cape Town?
SanFran?
Bali?
Rio?
'vette
Aircraft Wet Lease-737-800 189 Y
I suppose for what Ryanair use them, they are most suitable aroung Europe.
OK, forget the 737, just too short a range.
With an A380, is the intention to fly non-stop to AUS ?
Is it possible
Can any aircraft carry enough fuel?
Would it be worth it to carry so much fuel, ?
or like the F1 cars, just carry enough for a 1-stop stratergy ?
I am very interested.
After AUS, where are we going next ?
Montreal?
Cape Town?
SanFran?
Bali?
Rio?
'vette
Edited by uk_vette on Tuesday 25th January 05:54
Edited by uk_vette on Tuesday 25th January 05:58
uk_vette said:
OK, I didn't know the 737 had such short range.
Aircraft Wet Lease-737-800 189 Y
I suppose for what Ryanair use them, they are most suitable aroung Europe.
OK, forget the 737, just too short a range.
With an A380, is the intention to fly non-stop to AUS ?
Is it possible
Can any aircraft carry enough fuel?
Would it be worth it to carry so much fuel, ?
or like the F1 cars, just carry enough for a 1-stop stratergy ?
I am very interested.
After AUS, where are we going next ?
Montreal?
Cape Town?
SanFran?
Bali?
Rio?
'vette
IIRC BA managed a one off London to Sydney years back using a 747-400. However to do that the payload was limited to 20 pax. Not sure what the 777 LR or 340-500 can do in that respect but I'd stab a guess at a limited payload there as well.Aircraft Wet Lease-737-800 189 Y
I suppose for what Ryanair use them, they are most suitable aroung Europe.
OK, forget the 737, just too short a range.
With an A380, is the intention to fly non-stop to AUS ?
Is it possible
Can any aircraft carry enough fuel?
Would it be worth it to carry so much fuel, ?
or like the F1 cars, just carry enough for a 1-stop stratergy ?
I am very interested.
After AUS, where are we going next ?
Montreal?
Cape Town?
SanFran?
Bali?
Rio?
'vette
Edited by uk_vette on Tuesday 25th January 05:54
Edited by uk_vette on Tuesday 25th January 05:58
There is one way of making it much cheaper, although it's never been taken up by the airlines. Weigh the passengers. Currently the pilots "guess" how much the passengers weigh, which really means they add a big chunk of extra fuel just in case. If you weighed all the passengers before they got on the plane you could reduce the fuel load by a significant amount.
davepoth said:
There is one way of making it much cheaper, although it's never been taken up by the airlines. Weigh the passengers. Currently the pilots "guess" how much the passengers weigh, which really means they add a big chunk of extra fuel just in case. If you weighed all the passengers before they got on the plane you could reduce the fuel load by a significant amount.
I doubt it, it's an exact science. We use different 'guessed average' weight for different seasons allowing for more or less clothes. Long haul stuff like this with a tight margin demands actual baggage weights are entered into the system too.But following your idea, there is a decent chunk of fuel set aside for re-routing or stacking. Have a gamble and sack this off and you've saved a good 20% at a guess.
It'll take a good tonne of fuel to taxi too. Get TV involved and organise a strongman competition, get them to pull it to the runway.
sneijder said:
davepoth said:
There is one way of making it much cheaper, although it's never been taken up by the airlines. Weigh the passengers. Currently the pilots "guess" how much the passengers weigh, which really means they add a big chunk of extra fuel just in case. If you weighed all the passengers before they got on the plane you could reduce the fuel load by a significant amount.
I doubt it, it's an exact science. We use different 'guessed average' weight for different seasons allowing for more or less clothes. Long haul stuff like this with a tight margin demands actual baggage weights are entered into the system too.But following your idea, there is a decent chunk of fuel set aside for re-routing or stacking. Have a gamble and sack this off and you've saved a good 20% at a guess.
It'll take a good tonne of fuel to taxi too. Get TV involved and organise a strongman competition, get them to pull it to the runway.
Some odds and sods in there. Looks like a tonne of extra weight on a plane would add coming up for a tonne of extra fuel to move it to Aus. With 500 passengers the average would only need to be 2kg out to make that much of a difference. If every penny counts, I would think this would be a sensible thing to do.
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