Light aircraft in river near me
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mrloudly said:
fking bad luck more like! Engine failure and lands in a narrow river between two large fields, then takes off into foggy (as quoted by witnesses) conditions and
finds Cumulus Granite. How much bad luck can one person have!!
I gather he was banned from quite a lot of local airfields.finds Cumulus Granite. How much bad luck can one person have!!
mrloudly said:
Eric Mc said:
Ever heard of the words "bad luck"?
fking bad luck more like! Engine failure and lands in a narrow river between two large fields, then takes off into foggy (as quoted by witnesses) conditions and finds Cumulus Granite. How much bad luck can one person have!!
mat from preston said:
Eric Mc said:
What was he doing the aerobatics in?
Let's hope it wasn't the pa 28.He does seem to have been an accident (or two) waiting to happen.
mat from preston said:
The caa were at Barton a couple of months ago expressing there concerns he might be trying to hire from there.
That does beg the question that if the CAA were 'concerned' about him renting, and concerned enough to raise the issue with a rental organisation, then it was perfectly within the CAA's remit to pull this lad's licence, regardless of whether a prosecution over the ditching affair was considered likely to succeed. See Article 228 of the Air Navigation Order 2009 - in summary, if the CAA really don't like the cut of your jib, your ticket is history.This is a very sad outcome, and I suspect there will be a lot of questions asked in retrospect. Most of us with any degree of experience will have read the AAIB report into the ditching, and drawn our own conclusions. Some might choose to extrapolate some of those conclusions onto the recent accident, but the truth of it is that until the Swiss AAIB publish a final report, all bets are off. It certainly looks very bad, but there is still the possibility that mechanical failure rather than reckless behaviour on the part of the PIC was the primary cause of the crash.
What we can safely comment on are the videos that this chap left us as his legacy - the four second clip I've seen of a rather gash ballistic roll isn't really enough to form an opinion as to his basic safety as an aerobatic pilot, just enough to confirm a distinct lack of skill, but the 4 minutes or so of self-footage in the cockpit was fairly damning - his visual lookout scan was abysmal throughout. That being said, I suspect he wasn't the only one out there more pre-occupied with fertling with gadgets in the cockpit rather than maintaining a good lookout.
This unfortunate chap didn't really seem to do himself any favours in his aviation career, and is a matter of huge regret that it ended in this way, particularly with the loss of his passenger. Until the investigators publish a report, most of what you see on the forums will be speculation and rumour, as ever.
I saw the original crash on helicopter rescue ( or something) a few weeks a go on BBC. The chopper has eben dispatched for the S&R. I thought at the time how the hell did he end up in the river with fields all around.. He also didn't come across very well in the interviews afterwards. At the time he was studying for his Commercial licence.
Whatever happened, its still a bloody shame that someone was killed and took another life with them.
Whatever happened, its still a bloody shame that someone was killed and took another life with them.
Over on flyer there seems to be some suggestions that the Derwent crash was caused by him attempting to waterski the nodewheel along the river for the benefit of his mates and Youtube.
Im not suggesting the second accident had anything to do with this, but FFS if the initial impliciations around the first accident are true then surely this guy is a Darwin award in a plane.
Im not suggesting the second accident had anything to do with this, but FFS if the initial impliciations around the first accident are true then surely this guy is a Darwin award in a plane.
Obiwonkeyblokey said:
Over on flyer there seems to be some suggestions that the Derwent crash was caused by him attempting to waterski the nodewheel along the river for the benefit of his mates and Youtube.
Im not suggesting the second accident had anything to do with this, but FFS if the initial impliciations around the first accident are true then surely this guy is a Darwin award in a plane.
Been watching too much Tube...Im not suggesting the second accident had anything to do with this, but FFS if the initial impliciations around the first accident are true then surely this guy is a Darwin award in a plane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InGwnTt9FrU
mrloudly said:
That is exactly what he was attempting.....unfortunately his abilities/skills didn't reconcile with ambition or aim of the stunt and the Robin flipped over. ForzaWhitesGen2 said:
That is exactly what he was attempting.....unfortunately his abilities/skills didn't reconcile with ambition or aim of the stunt and the Robin flipped over.
If I told you I'd done it in a Robin 200 G-BDJN with a certain ex owner of NSOF (Now deceased bless him) on Pitsford reservoir Northampton, you wouldn't believe me LOL!mrloudly said:
If I told you I'd done it in a Robin 200 G-BDJN with a certain ex owner of NSOF (Now deceased bless him) on Pitsford reservoir Northampton, you wouldn't believe me LOL!
blimey....isnt that reservoir split in two by a road? am thinking reservior much wider and open than a small river thats about 14m across at best in that spot?Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff