Pistonheads whisky cask
Discussion
Lefty said:
No but it might make it easier to get a round number of bottles. And for those looking to sell/swap/trade bottles it might be easier having more - and smaller ones.
Plus it will look like more if there's more bottles !
PPX1 took 54 litres of spirit (SC40 only took 46 by the way!)
Assuming 80% is left after the angels have had their wicked way that gives 43.2 litres of whisky.
Assuming 55% at bottling
excludes the original purchase price of the cask
Assuming 80% is left after the angels have had their wicked way that gives 43.2 litres of whisky.
Assuming 55% at bottling
| Description | 700ml bottles | 500ml bottles |
| Number of bottles | 61 | 86 |
| Bottling fees | £122 | £172 |
| Duty | £657 | £657 |
| Transport TO WB | £15 | £15 |
| VAT | £159 | £169 |
| TOTAL STILL TO PAY | £938 | £998 |
| TOTAL STILL TO PAY (per bottle) | £15.38 | £11.61 |
excludes the original purchase price of the cask
Edited by Lefty on Tuesday 23 February 13:16
David A said:
Lefty said:
No but it might make it easier to get a round number of bottles. And for those looking to sell/swap/trade bottles it might be easier having more - and smaller ones.
Plus it will look like more if there's more bottles !
If we diluted it to 46% and used 500ml bottles we'd get 103 bottles, ten each.
Lefty said:
See, we could play silly buggers and using goal seek, bottle 509ml apt 47.5% which is exactly 100 bottles.
Missed this thread last week but agree on the move. The idea above works for me. Keep strong as possible, but work it so we get even bottles. Makes it all easier. Smaller bottles will help with this.
Some of my favourite bottles are my 500ml Edradour cask strengths in little wooden boxes. However as long as it has a proper cork in it I'm happy.
Lefty said:
Many distilleries will still sell you a new cask and they're not generally that expensive...you just have s far greater liability for duty/vat/bottling from a barrel, hogshead or butt.
This is timely and perhaps of interest if you want to go for any more (came out today):http://www.whiskysaga.com/you-can-be-a-cask-owner/
Basically all the options are Scandinavian since that's what the blog focuses on, but also has reference to Arran and Ardnamurchan as a comparison.
In regards to prices; the Swedish ones tend to be around £2000 for the 30l sherry ones (24 000 SEK). Perhaps the best option at this price is the Mackmyra one where they put 5yo whisky put into sherry cask for 3 years. There is one at around 1/2 the price which is £1100 for a 30l sherry cask (Norrtelje Distillery). The Icelandic one is 50l for around £1100. Some include bottling and transport (although I guess the UK would be more). Others would transport the whole cask with contents.
I guess these are more expensive than the British equivalents, and also would be more difficult to go to tastings each year (although could be a good holiday!), but could be interesting to try as something different. If anyone is interested I can translate more details if you want. Google also tends to work pretty well too.
As I've not been a whole lot of help sampling (best left to those with better palettes than I!) I have been thinking about the collection as a whole.
As we have 8 casks, my obvious thought was a V8, but as it's whisky (and such mechanical devices exist) I thought the W8 Collection? I don't see a reason to leave it open ended as I can't see further casks being purchased, and it allows the whisky completists amongst a sense of closure to get a full set!
Then there's the bottles themselves. We can stick with a simple description like:
Cask 1 - Peated Sherry
Cask 2 - Peated Refill
Cask 3 - Unpeated Refill
Cask 4 - Unpeated Sherry
Cask 5 - Unpeated Port
Cask 6 - Unpeated Bourbon
Cask 7 - ??
Cask 8 - Peated Bourbon
Or we can come up with names now - maybe with a car theme although there aren't many good car references involving Spain, Portugal or peat... I like the idea of Cask 6 being "Pure 'Vette" in reference to the Corvette plant in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
The other option is to take the SMWS approach and name the whisky at bottling based on taste, if anyone is willing to take up the mantle of whisky sniffer and word wrangler?
Lastly, do we have any restrictions on the label? Either shape, colours, etc? Would people want a consistent label across the whole W8 collection? Or have each be unique?
As we have 8 casks, my obvious thought was a V8, but as it's whisky (and such mechanical devices exist) I thought the W8 Collection? I don't see a reason to leave it open ended as I can't see further casks being purchased, and it allows the whisky completists amongst a sense of closure to get a full set!
Then there's the bottles themselves. We can stick with a simple description like:
Cask 1 - Peated Sherry
Cask 2 - Peated Refill
Cask 3 - Unpeated Refill
Cask 4 - Unpeated Sherry
Cask 5 - Unpeated Port
Cask 6 - Unpeated Bourbon
Cask 7 - ??
Cask 8 - Peated Bourbon
Or we can come up with names now - maybe with a car theme although there aren't many good car references involving Spain, Portugal or peat... I like the idea of Cask 6 being "Pure 'Vette" in reference to the Corvette plant in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
The other option is to take the SMWS approach and name the whisky at bottling based on taste, if anyone is willing to take up the mantle of whisky sniffer and word wrangler?
Lastly, do we have any restrictions on the label? Either shape, colours, etc? Would people want a consistent label across the whole W8 collection? Or have each be unique?
F-Stop Junkie said:
As I've not been a whole lot of help sampling (best left to those with better palettes than I!) I have been thinking about the collection as a whole.
As we have 8 casks, my obvious thought was a V8, but as it's whisky (and such mechanical devices exist) I thought the W8 Collection? I don't see a reason to leave it open ended as I can't see further casks being purchased, and it allows the whisky completists amongst a sense of closure to get a full set!
Then there's the bottles themselves. We can stick with a simple description like:
Cask 1 - Peated Sherry
Cask 2 - Peated Refill
Cask 3 - Unpeated Refill
Cask 4 - Unpeated Sherry
Cask 5 - Unpeated Port
Cask 6 - Unpeated Bourbon
Cask 7 - ??
Cask 8 - Peated Bourbon
Or we can come up with names now - maybe with a car theme although there aren't many good car references involving Spain, Portugal or peat... I like the idea of Cask 6 being "Pure 'Vette" in reference to the Corvette plant in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
The other option is to take the SMWS approach and name the whisky at bottling based on taste, if anyone is willing to take up the mantle of whisky sniffer and word wrangler?
Lastly, do we have any restrictions on the label? Either shape, colours, etc? Would people want a consistent label across the whole W8 collection? Or have each be unique?
W8 - I like it. As we have 8 casks, my obvious thought was a V8, but as it's whisky (and such mechanical devices exist) I thought the W8 Collection? I don't see a reason to leave it open ended as I can't see further casks being purchased, and it allows the whisky completists amongst a sense of closure to get a full set!
Then there's the bottles themselves. We can stick with a simple description like:
Cask 1 - Peated Sherry
Cask 2 - Peated Refill
Cask 3 - Unpeated Refill
Cask 4 - Unpeated Sherry
Cask 5 - Unpeated Port
Cask 6 - Unpeated Bourbon
Cask 7 - ??
Cask 8 - Peated Bourbon
Or we can come up with names now - maybe with a car theme although there aren't many good car references involving Spain, Portugal or peat... I like the idea of Cask 6 being "Pure 'Vette" in reference to the Corvette plant in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
The other option is to take the SMWS approach and name the whisky at bottling based on taste, if anyone is willing to take up the mantle of whisky sniffer and word wrangler?
Lastly, do we have any restrictions on the label? Either shape, colours, etc? Would people want a consistent label across the whole W8 collection? Or have each be unique?
Spain - Bull - Lamborghini.
Port - Docks - Blackpool - TVR
Pete - Wheeler - TVR too.
Edited by madbadger on Thursday 10th March 10:15
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