Pistonheads whisky cask

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Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Happened to need a camera for tomorrow, and picked up Rude Girl's, which had these on it from our visit with Lefty...





Have some others of the distillery, but will sort those another time.

Mr Trophy

6,808 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Podie, did you get my email on Monday?

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Mr Trophy said:
Podie, did you get my email on Monday?
yes replied too!

5678

6,146 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Podie said:
Happened to need a camera for tomorrow, and picked up Rude Girl's, which had these on it from our visit with Lefty...





Have some others of the distillery, but will sort those another time.
How do these map to our casks?

TFatC

397 posts

252 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Is anything happening/has anything happened with this yet? I have not received an email but am starting to develop a bit of a thirst!

crmcatee

5,694 posts

227 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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I don't know if the PH Casks are them same (I'm sure they are) but I've just had an email through offering to buy my casks back to the distillery.

Are they short of spirit (or are they keen to get nearly ready spirit) mmmmm. I know Bruichladdich will offer you at the end of 10 years an almost no brainer to get their hands on your cask with them. That consist of a third of the bottles, bottled, duty paid and delivered to a UK address f they get the other two thirds.

I'm in this for the whisky, not the financial returns.

HotJambalaya

2,025 posts

180 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Do they still do these? and who else does it? -I notice the original link doesn't exist any more

Quite fancy a cask myself now....

How long can you leave them for? etc



Edited by HotJambalaya on Thursday 4th December 13:37

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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HotJambalaya said:
Do they still do these? and who else does it? -I notice the original link doesn't exist any more

Quite fancy a cask myself now....

How long can you leave them for? etc



Edited by HotJambalaya on Thursday 4th December 13:37
Glenglassaugh no longer do it.

Typically they are to help get cashflow from a distillery that has just started up. There are some available at other distilleries, but they are full casks not octaves. In other words, don't expect change from £4k (+ duty and bottling after a decade or more).

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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crmcatee said:
I don't know if the PH Casks are them same (I'm sure they are) but I've just had an email through offering to buy my casks back to the distillery.

Are they short of spirit (or are they keen to get nearly ready spirit) mmmmm. I know Bruichladdich will offer you at the end of 10 years an almost no brainer to get their hands on your cask with them. That consist of a third of the bottles, bottled, duty paid and delivered to a UK address f they get the other two thirds.

I'm in this for the whisky, not the financial returns.
When we were there earlier in the year, it was made clear there was a huge overhead in keeping the octaves.

The other option is that they want the spirit, because their own bottlings have become very, very successful. For example, the 26 is already finished.

I suspect it's a combination of the two. They don't want the overhead AND the spirit is bloody good - which if nothing else is a good thing. smile

As I've previously stated, if someone wants to sell their share (or part of it) please let me know.

Mr Trophy

6,808 posts

203 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Podie said:
As I've previously stated, if someone wants to sell their share (or part of it) please let me know.
So I can neck a bottle ! lick

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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5678 said:
Podie said:
Happened to need a camera for tomorrow, and picked up Rude Girl's, which had these on it from our visit with Lefty...





Have some others of the distillery, but will sort those another time.
How do these map to our casks?
I think PPX1 is Cask1 (peated sherry). As for the others, we need Lefty to confirm.

Lefty

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16,152 posts

202 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Got an email from the distillery today askbg if we'd be willing to sell them back!

My immediate thought is no but if anyone wants out let me know.

I haven't forgotten about ppx1, will try to do a group email on a bottling vote at the weekend smile


S6PNJ

5,181 posts

281 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Lefty said:
Got an email from the distillery today asking if we'd be willing to sell them back!
I'm not looking to sell back (I want my bottles!) but out of interest, did they say what they were offering?

Do we know yet what our options are with the 'possibly soon to be' empty octaves?

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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S6PNJ said:
Lefty said:
Got an email from the distillery today asking if we'd be willing to sell them back!
I'm not looking to sell back (I want my bottles!) but out of interest, did they say what they were offering?

Do we know yet what our options are with the 'possibly soon to be' empty octaves?
There is no indication of offering in the email.

I've spoken to the God of Whisky (Lefty) and he's a bit snowed under. We've worked out a poll, and in due course those people will be sent an email.

F-Stop Junkie

549 posts

200 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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This is all very exciting!

Shame I was so slow off the mark that I only got in on the later casks, but I'll also throw my hat into the ring for any bottles looking for a home from the early ones.

robuk

2,210 posts

190 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I would vote no to a sell back - but if anyone wants out of their share I would be happy to talk about buying smile

Out of interest how common is the buy back offers, and is it based off poor planning on their part or some recent demand rise?

HotJambalaya

2,025 posts

180 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Podie said:
Glenglassaugh no longer do it.

Typically they are to help get cashflow from a distillery that has just started up. There are some available at other distilleries, but they are full casks not octaves. In other words, don't expect change from £4k (+ duty and bottling after a decade or more).
Damn, just found this on another forum:


Re: Benriach buys Glenglassaugh
Postby alec.tron » 22 Apr 2013, 23:21

Also worth mentioning, as things changed quite a bit over the last weeks all of a sudden...
- octave cask prices have doubled/trippled. They started from 500£ early this year (afair) for a bourbon non-peated octave, to starting at 1200£ now...
- large cask sales seem to have stopped completely, at least the documents are gone...
- Susan, who was working hard for GlenGlassaugh in the cask sales & customer department, has been sacked as well.

I saw the Benriach move as a good thing... now I'm not too sure anymore (not that it matters...). But, with Glenglassaugh's change of ownership, the unique & down to earth approach it was run with will be gone from the whisky landscape as well, making it all a bit more bland & conform...
Oh well.
c.
alec.tron

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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HotJambalaya said:
Damn, just found this on another forum:


Re: Benriach buys Glenglassaugh
Postby alec.tron » 22 Apr 2013, 23:21

Also worth mentioning, as things changed quite a bit over the last weeks all of a sudden...
- octave cask prices have doubled/trippled. They started from 500£ early this year (afair) for a bourbon non-peated octave, to starting at 1200£ now...
- large cask sales seem to have stopped completely, at least the documents are gone...
- Susan, who was working hard for GlenGlassaugh in the cask sales & customer department, has been sacked as well.

I saw the Benriach move as a good thing... now I'm not too sure anymore (not that it matters...). But, with Glenglassaugh's change of ownership, the unique & down to earth approach it was run with will be gone from the whisky landscape as well, making it all a bit more bland & conform...
Oh well.
c.
alec.tron
A lot has changed since BenRiach took over, including the departure og Mhairi MacDonald.

When we visited in August, it was clear there was substantial investment going in to the place. Serious TLC, and the old cottage at the foot of the hill was being fully renovated.

Coneyhurst Blue

583 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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On a facebook page I am following another Octave has been bottled.

Distilled in 2009 the Octave gave 65 bottles, looks from the label though it was bottled at 46%.

The chap has called it 'Dram of the Lords' - nice label (I think - I'm not sure), what I do like is he has numbered each bottle so on the picture is 55/65 nice touch.
If I knew my way around either facebook or a computer I'd try and post a picture but unfortunately my kids are at school and can't help !
Sadly it looks like some of his bottles got lost in transit - 65 shipped but only 60 arrived in Poland.

Edited by Coneyhurst Blue on Thursday 18th December 10:38

S6PNJ

5,181 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Lefty said:
I haven't forgotten about ppx1, will try to do a group email on a bottling vote at the weekend smile
Any news on ths Lefty? You've whet our appetite saying it might be ready - assuming a vote in the positive any timescales on this? In time for Burns perhaps?