Pistonheads whisky cask
Discussion
UPDATE - AN IMPORTANT ONE!
I have been speaking to a few sources for bottling, i think the best one is going to be whiskybroker.co.uk
Duty is duty of course and is the same wherever we bottle but whisky broker offer a choice of 8 different bottles ranging from £2-3 each.
Labels, seals etc are <£1 each (and we can design our own)
The biggest cost is in moving the casks from Portsoy to their own bonded warehouse and bottling facility in Newton Stewart. However, they are doing a shipment in the next two weeks and GLG need confirmation by tomorrow if we want to ship them all. I have asked for a quote but they are doing a large shipment of 40 casks so we get the benefit of sharing that cost.
I think this is a good idea - it removes all dealings with the distillery - who are being a little difficult at best.
If we decide to let them mature any longer then it's £15 per year per cask which is quite reasonable I think. They are also very willing to let us visit and sample the casks as often as we like - and at any time. I think we're looking at <£4 / bottle for bottling charges (plus duty and vat of course) - this is quite a bit cheaper than GLG and with a lot more flexibility.
Can you let me know ASAP if anyone violently disagrees with this idea?
Thanks!
Lefty
I have been speaking to a few sources for bottling, i think the best one is going to be whiskybroker.co.uk
Duty is duty of course and is the same wherever we bottle but whisky broker offer a choice of 8 different bottles ranging from £2-3 each.
Labels, seals etc are <£1 each (and we can design our own)
The biggest cost is in moving the casks from Portsoy to their own bonded warehouse and bottling facility in Newton Stewart. However, they are doing a shipment in the next two weeks and GLG need confirmation by tomorrow if we want to ship them all. I have asked for a quote but they are doing a large shipment of 40 casks so we get the benefit of sharing that cost.
I think this is a good idea - it removes all dealings with the distillery - who are being a little difficult at best.
If we decide to let them mature any longer then it's £15 per year per cask which is quite reasonable I think. They are also very willing to let us visit and sample the casks as often as we like - and at any time. I think we're looking at <£4 / bottle for bottling charges (plus duty and vat of course) - this is quite a bit cheaper than GLG and with a lot more flexibility.
Can you let me know ASAP if anyone violently disagrees with this idea?
Thanks!
Lefty
No disagreement here Lefty but I thought we had a max of 7 years 'free' maturation under our T&Cs so why an ongoing cost at the moment of £15 per year?
Scratch that - I've just re-read your post and if I understand it, once the casks have moved (ie all of them) there is the £15 per year charge, not a charge by GLG (assumed to be Glenglassaugh)
Scratch that - I've just re-read your post and if I understand it, once the casks have moved (ie all of them) there is the £15 per year charge, not a charge by GLG (assumed to be Glenglassaugh)
Edited by S6PNJ on Thursday 18th February 11:55
Yes, that's right. No further charge from Glenglassaugh for storage up to 7 years BUT they are not providing samples on request and their bottling is expensive.
If we move them (the quote comes out to £15/cask for transport - only this cheap because there is a large order being moved next week) then yes we have to pay a little more for storage (1.50 per person per cask per year) if we choose to let them mature longer but have the flexibility to taste them as often as we like (but only at the warehouse - they cannot send samples).
Personally, i think we should do it. And then arrange a visit to taste everything ASAP and decide what to bottle now.
If we move them (the quote comes out to £15/cask for transport - only this cheap because there is a large order being moved next week) then yes we have to pay a little more for storage (1.50 per person per cask per year) if we choose to let them mature longer but have the flexibility to taste them as often as we like (but only at the warehouse - they cannot send samples).
Personally, i think we should do it. And then arrange a visit to taste everything ASAP and decide what to bottle now.
The other benefit is that whiskybroker will happily make up batches and arrange delivery to each of us - something GLG definitely will not do.
WE do however need to make an important decision and that is on bottling strength.
A part of me thinks that cask strength is the most logical BUT we can play silly buggers with the strength to give a number of bottles divisible by 10 - so that we each get an equal number.
If we bottle at cask strength then chances are we'll need to draw straws or do something similar to decide who gets the extra bottles (at their own cost obviously).
WE do however need to make an important decision and that is on bottling strength.
A part of me thinks that cask strength is the most logical BUT we can play silly buggers with the strength to give a number of bottles divisible by 10 - so that we each get an equal number.
If we bottle at cask strength then chances are we'll need to draw straws or do something similar to decide who gets the extra bottles (at their own cost obviously).
t. I agree its what's inside that counts however....................................I really like the square bottle as well as its different !
I also think it will take a label really well.
Any ideas on that chaps - any artists amongst us ?
As for the strength I like the idea of an even number of bottles.
I guess it won't make a drastic difference - for example coming out of the cask at 53% but dropping to 40% to get it divisible by 10 ?
I also think it will take a label really well.
Any ideas on that chaps - any artists amongst us ?
As for the strength I like the idea of an even number of bottles.
I guess it won't make a drastic difference - for example coming out of the cask at 53% but dropping to 40% to get it divisible by 10 ?
I think it might be quite different actually.
I really wouldn't advocate bottling at less than say 46%. It's easy to reduce it in your glass but very hard to strengthen it!
I guess if we could make it an even number of bottles - say 50 - by dropping the bottling ABV to around 46-50% that would work but I'm open to the majority opinion of course.
I really wouldn't advocate bottling at less than say 46%. It's easy to reduce it in your glass but very hard to strengthen it!
I guess if we could make it an even number of bottles - say 50 - by dropping the bottling ABV to around 46-50% that would work but I'm open to the majority opinion of course.
I am happy with the move and the cost of doing it, just let me know where to pay and I'll do it.
As far a bottle shape goes, I prefer the standard shape as it fits into my whisky racks easier. I can't seem to tell the difference between the bottle of the far left and the bottle on the far right though.
I am happy to have the whisky watered down slightly for bottling but would not really want it to go below 48% to be honest.
As far a bottle shape goes, I prefer the standard shape as it fits into my whisky racks easier. I can't seem to tell the difference between the bottle of the far left and the bottle on the far right though.
I am happy to have the whisky watered down slightly for bottling but would not really want it to go below 48% to be honest.
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