Thermomix

[Cheese Mechanic]

Melman Giraffe said:

Save your money. Thermomix is the latest fad and is all the mums up at the school talk about. Give it a year and Ebay will be flooded with them as people get bored.
Good old knife, saucepan, hob, wooden spoon and some cooking know how is the best way and has been for hundreds of years and will be for the next million.

I'm of a similar opinion. It never ceases to amaze me at the numerous attempts to re-invent the wheel. Most of which seem (curiously) hugely expensive.

Cookers are a relatively generic item,roughly similar to use , having to basically re-learn to cook because of a proprietary appliance is not a good idea, leaves the individual dependent on it. Not a wise decison at all. To say nothing of the bloated expense.

[dazco]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Melman Giraffe said:

Save your money. Thermomix is the latest fad and is all the mums up at the school talk about. Give it a year and Ebay will be flooded with them as people get bored.
Good old knife, saucepan, hob, wooden spoon and some cooking know how is the best way and has been for hundreds of years and will be for the next million.

I'm of a similar opinion. It never ceases to amaze me at the numerous attempts to re-invent the wheel. Most of which seem (curiously) hugely expensive.

Cookers are a relatively generic item,roughly similar to use , having to basically re-learn to cook because of a proprietary appliance is not a good idea, leaves the individual dependent on it. Not a wise decison at all. To say nothing of the bloated expense.

No-one is saying it takes the place of a stove, it is a kitchen aid.

Do you have a mixer? Could you not cope with a bowl and a wooden spoon?

Edit:

Have either of you seen a Thermomix in action or used one?

[Cheese Mechanic]

dazco said:

No-one is saying it takes the place of a stove, it is a kitchen aid.
Do you have a mixer? Could you not cope with a bowl and a wooden spoon?
Edit:
Have either of you seen a Thermomix in action or used one?

A very expensive kitchen aid at £800.
Don't have a mixer , but daughter does, between us it justifies its expense. (much less tyhan £800)
Never used one, seen a vid of one being used.

Other things prevent me taking it seriously, warranty, just 2 years domestically, and one year trade . Seems they do not have the confidence in its durability to offer more. Not very encouraging for such an expensive niche item.

From memory as well, as a blender it is similar to a centrifugal juicer , which means it knocks a lot of the nutrients out of veg, fruit etc.

Kitchen gadgets can have their places, but this is overboard, and as for the way its sold, that just increases the scepticism.

[einsign]

Not clear why you are posting on this forum really?

[Cheese Mechanic]

einsign said:

Not clear why you are posting on this forum really?

To make comment, on a current topic. Disturb you does it?

You do not seem to disagree with my perspectives, so cannot understand your somewhat snide comment. How dare I be honest when it could look over the vested interests of others.

Edited by Cheese Mechanic on Friday 4th April 17:55

[dazco]

Cheese Mechanic said:

einsign said:

Not clear why you are posting on this forum really?

To make comment, on a current topic. Disturb you does it?

You do not seem to disagree with my perspectives, so cannot understand your somewhat snide comment. How dare I be honest when it could look over the vested interests of others.

Edited by Cheese Mechanic on Friday 4th April 17:55

To be fair to einsign you are posting on a forum about a kitchen aid stating that you don't like it but have never owned nor used one.

I have posted plenty of positive notes from some very eminent people in the culinary world, but if you think your thoughts (the thoughts of someone who has never used one) are as valid as some of the finest chefs who have actually used them for many years, then I believe you may think a little too much about yourself.

You concede that a mixer 'justifies it's expense' so why can't the Thermomix? A commercial blender can cost £500 and it's as good as any. A good mixer is £350, a steamer, coffee grinder, mincer, soup maker, rice maker, ice cream maker all cost money and it can easily replace those.

On top of that you can get the smoothest sauces ever, you can throw the sauce ingredients in and just leave it if you want, it won't burn or split and it will hold it at a temperature if you like. It will even weigh the ingredients as you add them. (edit: In fact if you was to put a split sauce in the machine it will rescue the sauce)

Same with soup, throw the ingredients in and it will tell you when they are soup. Want smooth soup? Just whizz it up.

Granted, if you never have any use of the functions then it is no use to anyone, but if you cook to decent level then then you will make sauces, sometimes need to grind or mill, use the convenience of a machine to prepare a course for you and this machine is fantastic at it.

Edited by dazco on Friday 4th April 18:37

[Cheese Mechanic]

dazco said:

To be fair to einsign you are posting on a forum about a kitchen aid stating that you don't like it but have never owned nor used one.

I have posted plenty of positive notes from some very eminent people in the culinary world, but if you think your thoughts (the thoughts of someone who has never used one) are as valid as some of the finest chefs who have actually used them for many years, then I believe you may think a little too much about yourself.

You concede that a mixer 'justifies it's expense' so why can't the Thermomix? A commercial blender can cost £500 and it's as good as any. A good mixer is £350, a steamer, coffee grinder, mincer, soup maker, rice maker, ice cream maker all cost money and it can easily replace those.

On top of that you can get the smoothest sauces ever, you can throw the sauce ingredients in and just leave it if you want, it won't burn or split and it will hold it at a temperature if you like. It will even weigh the ingredients as you add them. (edit: In fact if you was to put a split sauce in the machine it will rescue the sauce)

Same with soup, throw the ingredients in and it will tell you when they are soup. Want smooth soup? Just whizz it up.

Granted, if you never have any use of the functions then it is no use to anyone, but if you cook to decent level then then you will make sauces, sometimes need to grind or mill, use the convenience of a machine to prepare a course for you and this machine is fantastic at it.

Edited by dazco on Friday 4th April 18:37

Thanks for the sales patter.

I made honest comment on a particular gadget. Simple as that. Very telling when some go out their way to try and trash said honest comment.

Curiously enough, I came to this thread, agreeing with another, someone chose to challenge me on that opinion, I opened out as to why, seems the truth caused ructions.

Look, this is a food/drink thread, if people have vested interests, then be so honest as to say so, but if honest comment takes a turn away from the sales line, do not try and denegrate the commenter.

You want to pay £800 for this gadget, go ahead , but don't expect others to do so, or try to shoot the messenger when the message does not suit.

[dazco]

Cheese Mechanic said:

Thanks for the sales patter.

I made honest comment on a particular gadget. Simple as that. Very telling when some go out their way to try and trash said honest comment.

Curiously enough, I came to this thread, agreeing with another, someone chose to challenge me on that opinion, I opened out as to why, seems the truth caused ructions.

Look, this is a food/drink thread, if people have vested interests, then be so honest as to say so, but if honest comment takes a turn away from the sales line, do not try and denegrate the commenter.

You want to pay £800 for this gadget, go ahead , but don't expect others to do so, or try to shoot the messenger when the message does not suit.

Who do you think has a vested interest?

I tried to reply in a civil manner, but I am now going to be blunt.

You have no honest comment, you have never used one or even seen one in real life. What on Earth can your 'opinion' be based on?

Any other products you have never seen or used that you can testify are not worth the money or would not suit your austere lifestyle?


Be honest for a moment, if you wanted to know if a gadget was useful or not would you take the advice of people who have one or someone who has never even seen one.

In fact, to be even more blunt, I have no idea what possessed you to give your opinion in the first place.

[Cheese Mechanic]

dazco said:

Who do you think has a vested interest?

I tried to reply in a civil manner, but I am now going to be blunt.

You have no honest comment, you have never used one or even seen one in real life. What on Earth can your 'opinion' be based on?

Any other products you have never seen or used that you can testify are not worth the money or would not suit your austere lifestyle?
Be honest for a moment, if you wanted to know if a gadget was useful or not would you take the advice of people who have one or someone who has never even seen one.

In fact, to be even more blunt, I have no idea what possessed you to give your opinion in the first place.

Not going to repeat myself. Your last line says it all.

Fact is, something good sells itself, it does not need a circus that this product does, neither does it produce the hysterical response that this seems to breed when it is criticised, truth hurts, apparently.

As said, spend £800 on it if you wish, but do not try to intimidate others who do not share your enthusiasm.

Vested interest? Well,

[einsign]

Opinions are like arseh0les, eveyone has one.

I dont understand the need for people to be negative about things they really don't understand, its a bit mental if you ask me.

[Melman Giraffe]

Cheese Mechanic said:

dazco said:

Who do you think has a vested interest?

I tried to reply in a civil manner, but I am now going to be blunt.

You have no honest comment, you have never used one or even seen one in real life. What on Earth can your 'opinion' be based on?

Any other products you have never seen or used that you can testify are not worth the money or would not suit your austere lifestyle?
Be honest for a moment, if you wanted to know if a gadget was useful or not would you take the advice of people who have one or someone who has never even seen one.

In fact, to be even more blunt, I have no idea what possessed you to give your opinion in the first place.

Not going to repeat myself. Your last line says it all.

Fact is, something good sells itself, it does not need a circus that this product does, neither does it produce the hysterical response that this seems to breed when it is criticised, truth hurts, apparently.

As said, spend £800 on it if you wish, but do not try to intimidate others who do not share your enthusiasm.

Vested interest? Well,

Amen brother

[dazco]

Cheese Mechanic said:

dazco said:

Who do you think has a vested interest?

I tried to reply in a civil manner, but I am now going to be blunt.

You have no honest comment, you have never used one or even seen one in real life. What on Earth can your 'opinion' be based on?

Any other products you have never seen or used that you can testify are not worth the money or would not suit your austere lifestyle?
Be honest for a moment, if you wanted to know if a gadget was useful or not would you take the advice of people who have one or someone who has never even seen one.

In fact, to be even more blunt, I have no idea what possessed you to give your opinion in the first place.

Not going to repeat myself. Your last line says it all.

Fact is, something good sells itself, it does not need a circus that this product does, neither does it produce the hysterical response that this seems to breed when it is criticised, truth hurts, apparently.

As said, spend £800 on it if you wish, but do not try to intimidate others who do not share your enthusiasm.

Vested interest? Well,

I have no idea what circus you are referring to.

My response can hardly be categorised as hysterical, if anything you seem to have become all blustery and blowy about the matter.
I have a Thermomix, I bought it second hand off Gumtree and have nothing to do with selling them, but I do know about them. Because I know about them I feel it is only right that I can reply to posts like yours who quite simply have no idea what you are talking about. Which you freely admit to.

I do acknowledge that you have a right to say what you feel but you also have the right to cut and paste the dictionary and that would also be as relevant as your feelings about an object that you have no idea about.

As I said, I have a Thermomix and I think it is fantastic. Would I buy another if it broke? Yes I would.

[escargot]

Cheese Mechanic said:

dazco said:

Who do you think has a vested interest?

I tried to reply in a civil manner, but I am now going to be blunt.

You have no honest comment, you have never used one or even seen one in real life. What on Earth can your 'opinion' be based on?

Any other products you have never seen or used that you can testify are not worth the money or would not suit your austere lifestyle?
Be honest for a moment, if you wanted to know if a gadget was useful or not would you take the advice of people who have one or someone who has never even seen one.

In fact, to be even more blunt, I have no idea what possessed you to give your opinion in the first place.

Not going to repeat myself. Your last line says it all.

Fact is, something good sells itself, it does not need a circus that this product does, neither does it produce the hysterical response that this seems to breed when it is criticised, truth hurts, apparently.

As said, spend £800 on it if you wish, but do not try to intimidate others who do not share your enthusiasm.

Vested interest? Well,

You are odd. My mother warned me about people like you.

[Mashedpotatoes]

Did it say on the instructions how well theses things can stir emotions?

[einsign]

Do you criticise people on the other forum areas because they own a better car than you?

[SkinnyBoy]

One of our friends has one and she swears by it. They really are a great aid in the kitchen only if you have a need for them otherwise they are an expensive gadget. I asked the mrs if she wanted one but she said she would rather cook old school but did think they were brill.

[Mashedpotatoes]

einsign said:

Do you criticise people on the other forum areas because they own a better car than you?

Whoa whoa whoa if that was directed at me you have got the wrong end of the stick. I just made a daft joke. I couldn't give a stuff what other people spend there money on.

[PugwasHDJ80]

Melman Giraffe said:

Cheese Mechanic said:

dazco said:

Who do you think has a vested interest?

I tried to reply in a civil manner, but I am now going to be blunt.

You have no honest comment, you have never used one or even seen one in real life. What on Earth can your 'opinion' be based on?

Any other products you have never seen or used that you can testify are not worth the money or would not suit your austere lifestyle?
Be honest for a moment, if you wanted to know if a gadget was useful or not would you take the advice of people who have one or someone who has never even seen one.

In fact, to be even more blunt, I have no idea what possessed you to give your opinion in the first place.

Not going to repeat myself. Your last line says it all.

Fact is, something good sells itself, it does not need a circus that this product does, neither does it produce the hysterical response that this seems to breed when it is criticised, truth hurts, apparently.

As said, spend £800 on it if you wish, but do not try to intimidate others who do not share your enthusiasm.

Vested interest? Well,

Amen brother

I don't have a vested interest but like to believe I can cook to a very high level.

I would see the thermomix as very good value.

It's extremely expensive, but still good value IF you can make use of it. Most can't. I would guess neither of you actually cook particularly well, or very technically. The vast majority of home cooks wouldn't find much point in these (and shouldn't waste their money on one)

[MrsFallon]

Chim Girl said:

I appreciate this is an old thread, however I'm contemplating buying one of these (and have been for aaaages).

So, a few people here have a Thermomix, are you still using it as much as you were, or has it become another worktop ornament? Do you still think it was worth the money?

Edited by Chim Girl on Tuesday 1st April 09:24

Jo, did you buy one in the end? If so how are you getting on with it?

[Melman Giraffe]

Can I suggest those who have purchased one of these post up pictures of the gastronomic creations they have managed to create using this fancy blender. Maybe it would convert the unconverted (sceptical) such as me.