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otolith

19,345 posts

73 months

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Whole and raw rather than processed and pelleted - Mediterranean extensive farming of bass in lagoons relies on natural prey prior to fattening in cages.

MonkeyMatt

4,740 posts

76 months

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I eat makerel, bass, and sea trout amd a few others that I catch myself. I dont bother freezing it as it sofens the tecture! I just make sure the fish is healthy and from a safe area!

Goughie

569 posts

58 months

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otolith said:
Whole and raw rather than processed and pelleted - Mediterranean extensive farming of bass in lagoons relies on natural prey prior to fattening in cages.
This is ranching and not farming.

Fishtigua

2,945 posts

64 months

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I used to be a longline tuna & swordfish boat crew in the Caribbean & South America. You would not believe the care that goes into their preparation from the moment it is landed on the boat. If you've seen 'The Perfect Storm' you'll have a very rough idea of what goes on.

For the swordfish, meat conservation is pretty easy. Once the fish is gaffed aboard it is killed with a swift blow to the head while in a cradle, gutted, finned and beheaded. The carcass is put in vat of really ice cold seawater held at a temp that will drop the core heat right down. It is then packed into the hold covered in saltwater ice, it will last down there with no loss of quality or flavour for ages.

Tuna is whole different ballgame. As we were fishing for the Sushi market, we targeted Yellowfin and Big-Eye tuna from about 80lb to around 250 and above for prime meat. Bluefin is now so rare we tried not to catch them if possible but they can grow to be huge.

Once the tuna is gaffed aboard and despatched, it is beheaded and then a stainless steel rod is pushed up the spinal column so twitching will not ruin the muscle, all this must done in seconds. Gutted and finned it is then packed in freshwater ice as saltwater ice is too cold and will burn the flesh (it goes a naff grey colour and loses firmness). To drop the core temp the shaved ice is packed into the belly cavity and the fish covered. Every 4 to 6 hours the the cavity ice is changed until it stops melting. Saltwater ice is easy to make onboard but freshwater ice is a lot more complex and expensive. Can you image all the man-hours this involves?

When back in port, after 10 days to 3 weeks fishing, eash fish is removed, weighed and graded. The grade will give the price for each fish, an AA will have a beautiful red flesh the colour of a ripe cherry tomato and real firmness. These are the ones only taken by the finest restaurants. We got around $5 a pound for these rare beauts. As the grade goes down so does the price.

Each fish is then packed in a polystyrene coffin with fresh ice, taped up and given its own mini-passport for shipping. They are then flown to Miami or New York for sale there or onto Japan or Europe. This is top dollar fish that needs no freezing or mucking about with.

Unfortunately most of the tuna we get in Europe, except some Med fisheries, are caught with seine nets off West Africa. This filthy fishery kills the young, dolphins and turtles; none of the above described care goes into looking after the fish so that worms, bacteria and parasites can be present.
Ask your fish supplier just where he gets his tuna. Please be careful.







lepetitoeuf

5,304 posts

131 months

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Fishtigua said:
I used to be a longline tuna & swordfish boat crew in the Caribbean & South America.
Awesome info, cheers smile

When I've been to Billingsgate I often only see frozen Tuna. Would that have been frozen once it reaches the UK or frozen on board a boat somewhere?

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Melman Giraffe

3,877 posts

87 months

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Will Ceviche kill said bacteria?

otolith

19,345 posts

73 months

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Melman Giraffe said:
Will Ceviche kill said bacteria?
Worms, not bacteria. No, the Pacific coast of South America has a high incidence of cases for that reason, along with Japan (sashimi) and the Netherlands (raw herring).

MonkeyMatt

4,740 posts

76 months

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Monday 18th June 2012 quote quote all
lepetitoeuf said:
Fishtigua said:
I used to be a longline tuna & swordfish boat crew in the Caribbean & South America.
Awesome info, cheers smile

When I've been to Billingsgate I often only see frozen Tuna. Would that have been frozen once it reaches the UK or frozen on board a boat somewhere?
Excellent post! I am facinated about fish and fisheries! what is it you do now?

Fishtigua

2,945 posts

64 months

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MonkeyMatt said:
lepetitoeuf said:
Fishtigua said:
I used to be a longline tuna & swordfish boat crew in the Caribbean & South America.
Awesome info, cheers smile

When I've been to Billingsgate I often only see frozen Tuna. Would that have been frozen once it reaches the UK or frozen on board a boat somewhere?
Excellent post! I am facinated about fish and fisheries! what is it you do now?
Many of the whole frozen tuna you may see are from the boats of Taiwan or Korea that are based in the Pacific. I have a photo somewhere, taken from the cable-car over Pago-Pago harbour in American Samoa, that shows just how many of these boats are tied up next to the huge freezer factory there. Talk about factory fishing!



I now work for a Marine Engineers in Guernsey where I grew-up working on the crab & lobster boats as a teenager.



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